Nathan’s win brought a huge wave of media attention, including an appearance on the The Jennifer Hudson Show, which was so fun to watch. Beyond this breakthrough moment, Nathan has been building an impressive career for years. He holds a 2:10:45 marathon personal best and is the fastest American-born Black man in the marathon.

He placed seventh at the 2024 Olympic Trials Marathon and has also finished in the top 10 at the New York City Marathon. Nathan runs professionally for ASICS and is coached by James McCurdy. Outside of racing, he’s a high school track and cross country coach and works as a substitute teacher, all while continuing to chase big goals in the marathon.

I’m really grateful he took the time to come on the show, especially with how busy things have been for him lately. This is a fun and inspiring conversation with an athlete who is just getting started on what feels like a really exciting chapter.

What we discussed:

• Adjusting to sudden media attention after LA Marathon win
• Becoming the fastest American-born Black marathoner and what that means
• Authenticity vs. performance on social media
• Breaking down the LA Marathon finish and final sprint
• Experience with major media appearances and interviews
• 2024 Olympic Trials marathon and racing through extreme fatigue
• Mental strategies during tough marathon moments
• Upbringing, family influence, and developing competitiveness
• Coaching high school athletes and impact on young runners
• Looking ahead to future goals, including the Olympics

Media Mentioned:

• The Jennifer Hudson Show
• CNN
• Fox & Friends
• CBS segments (social/digital features)
• Big Brother
• The Traitors
• Ender’s Game

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Jonathan is a 2:46 marathoner who has truly built his running journey over time. He ran his first half marathon in 2012 and his first marathon in 2014, and then really found consistency around 2017 to 2018. Since then, he has fully embraced the sport.

This will be his eighth consecutive Boston Marathon, and this year he is taking it to another level by running the Double Boston. He has completed 16 marathons and 21 ultras, and he is someone who clearly loves to challenge himself in big ways.

We talk about his life as a runner, raising an active family alongside his wife Christine, who is also running Boston this year, and how running has become such a constant in his life.

Jonathan also shares about a personal hardship he has walked through and how running has always been there for him through it. That thread really carries through this entire conversation and gives a deeper look into why he shows up the way he does.

I love talking to everyday runners, and while Jonathan may not call himself elite, celebrating your 40th birthday with a 100-mile run definitely says otherwise. He brings so much perspective, resilience, and passion to the running community, and I’m really excited for you to hear his story.

What we discussed:

• Double Boston challenge (running the course twice)
• Boston Marathon approach vs running for time vs experience
• Marathon PR (2:46) and race breakdown at Boston
• First marathon experience and early running journey
• Running with his wife and family life balance
• Jigger Johnson 100 attempt and embracing difficult races
• Road vs trail running and seasonal training approach
• Loss of his son Cooper and running through grief
• Mount to Coast partnership and Double Boston support setup
• Mindset: pursuing hard things and reframing failure

Media mentioned

• Severance
• Foo Fighters

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Maria has completed over 100 marathons and ultras and this will be her 17th consecutive Boston Marathon, though this time she’s running the course twice for a total of 52 miles! Maria has completed a marathon in 48 of 50 States and has the goal of finishing that soon. She’s also completed multiple 100 mile distance races, one in which we get to hear about that took her 9 tries but SHE DID IT!!

This conversation is full of love, grit and plenty of joy amidst some challenging life circumstances that Maria has walked through. You’re gonna love her.

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We recorded this episode in person at the Fleet Feet headquarters in Carrboro, which is just a short drive from my home in Raleigh. Getting to sit down face to face made this conversation feel even more meaningful.

Jenny recently stepped into a new role as the first Chief Running Officer at Fleet Feet, and we talk about what that transition has been like. We also reflect on her career, from being a world champion and Olympic bronze medalist in the 1500 meters to the many experiences she has had since stepping away from professional racing.

We talk about her seven marathons on seven continents in seven days, the RV trip she and her husband took across the country visiting running stores and communities in every state, and how those experiences have shaped what she is doing now.

Jenny is one of those people who makes you feel seen. She shows up fully in conversation, and you can feel how deeply she cares about people and the running community. I know you are going to feel that in this episode.

I hope you enjoy this conversation with Jenny Simpson.

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In this conversation, Erin shares what draws her to this style of running and why she is so inspired by self-supported and unsupported efforts in the mountains. We talk about the beauty and challenge of moving through remote places alone, what it takes to prepare for these routes, and how she approaches safety, fear, and decision-making in extreme environments.

Erin also reflects on a recent trip to South America, where she set the short-course women’s speed record on Aconcagua, the highest peak in South America. She talks about the emotional side of these big efforts too, including what it feels like when an attempt does not go to plan, why some unfinished goals still keep calling her back, and how she has learned to sit with both success and failure.

This episode is a little different from the track, road, and marathon conversations I often have on the show, and that is exactly why I loved it. Erin’s story is full of adventure, perspective, and a deep love for wild places. I think you are going to really enjoy getting to know her.

Topics Discussed:

• What fastest known times are and the difference between supported, self-supported, and unsupported efforts
• Why Erin is drawn to self-supported and unsupported mountain efforts
• Her recent South America trip and setting the short-course women’s speed record on Aconcagua
• The difference between the short and long Aconcagua records
• How she trains for very different kinds of FKTs, from short mountain efforts to 24-plus hour and multi-day routes
• Strength training, nutrition, sleep, and the more structured side of her preparation
• Wilderness safety, gear, and learning to move safely in big mountain environments
• Managing fear and using visualization before committing to dangerous terrain
• Beautiful places she recommends, including the Atacama Desert in Chile and the Khumbu Valley in Nepal
• Living out of a van and what that lifestyle looks like in practice
• Her unfinished pursuit of Nolan’s and what repeated attempts have taught her
• Why she is more drawn to adventure-style mountain efforts than traditional racing
• Growing up in Colorado and how leaving home made her appreciate the mountains more
• The law school path she once imagined and how running became both an outlet and a calling
• The bigger goals she has for the future, including chasing women’s speed records on the Seven Summits
• Her encouragement to get outside, explore, and experience more of the world

Book recommendations:

A Sand County Almanac

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What makes this performance even more impressive is that Lindsey came into the race as the lowest seed and didn’t even know she was in the race until just days before. She made the most of the opportunity, putting herself right in the mix and even taking the lead during the race.

Lindsey is currently an unsponsored athlete, training in Blacksburg with her college coach at Virginia Tech while also working as an engineer.

She’s an NCAA champion and has been on a steady rise, running multiple personal bests over the past year, including a 4:20 mile at Fifth Avenue and 4:25 at the Sir Walter Mile.

This is a really exciting time in her career, and I think we’re going to be seeing a lot more of Lindsey moving forward.

Topics Discussed:

• USA Indoor Championships performance
• Racing as the last seed in a national final
• Taking the lead mid-race strategy
• Missing Worlds despite podium finish
• Unsponsored athlete experience
• Pursuing a pro contract
• NIL deal with On and transition out of college
• Balancing engineering career with elite running
• Training setup in Blacksburg
• Working with coach Ben Thomas
• Post-collegiate training group (POCO)
• Late start in running after lacrosse background
• PR progression in mile and road racing
• Navigating the pro running landscape
• Future goals: Diamond League and national team contention

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Kellyn is one of the most respected marathoners in the sport, with five top-10 finishes at the New York City Marathon and several close calls at the Olympic Trials. She is also a mom of four and is now stepping into a brand new chapter after being accepted into the Fire Academy, something she has dreamed about for a long time. Kellyn talks about both marathons, what this season has looked like, and what it means to keep chasing big goals in running while also preparing for a demanding new career.

Topics

• Winning the Austin Marathon in 2:33

• Finishing second at the LA Marathon in 2:27

• Using Austin as part of the buildup to LA

• Why Kellyn says LA was the hardest marathon course she has raced

• Her history of success at the New York City Marathon

• Coming close to the podium at multiple Olympic Trials

• Motherhood and training as a mom of four

• Getting accepted into the Fire Academy

• Starting a new phase of life while still racing at a high level

• Chasing PRs and staying motivated in this season

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Emily is sponsored by New Balance and currently trains with Union Athletics Club under coach Pete Julian. Last summer she made the move from Team New Balance Boston to Union Athletics Club, and we talk about that transition, what training has looked like in this new environment, and how the change has helped her continue to grow as an athlete.

We also talk about what’s next as Emily prepares to compete at the World Indoor Championships in the 3000 meters in Poland. It’s always fun catching up with Emily. This is actually her fourth time on the podcast, and it’s been incredible to follow her journey over the years and see the progression in her career.

I hope you enjoy this conversation with Emily Mackay.

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Sign up for the Marathon Project! The Marathon Project is a fast, flat race weekend in Chandler, Arizona designed to give amateur runners a pro-style marathon experience, with features like personal bottles, pace groups, indoor warmup space, and a highly supported race environment. Price increases on April 1st, so sign up now at themarathonproject.com and use the code “lindsey” (all lowercase!) for $25 off!

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Shannon is a three-time Olympian and Olympic bronze medalist in the 1500 meters. Her medal came years after the 2012 Olympic final, when multiple athletes ahead of her were later disqualified for doping. In this conversation, she reflects on that experience and the complicated reality of receiving an Olympic medal long after the race is over.

Jessica Dorrington is a board-certified orthopedic clinical specialist and pelvic health physical therapist who works with many elite runners. She shares practical, grounded insight on postpartum recovery, pelvic health, and how athletes can safely return to running after pregnancy or injury.

Together, Shannon and Jess talk about the inspiration behind Strong as a Mother, why better education around postpartum recovery is so needed in sport, and how runners can approach their comeback with patience, perspective, and the right support. We also talk about Shannon’s career, the emotional complexity of elite competition, and the importance of understanding the body through every phase of life.

This episode is part of my weekend at the Napa Valley Marathon, where I had the chance to serve as race emcee and host conversations with athletes and leaders in the running community.

Topics covered:

• Longevity in running and what helps you keep running for decades

• Why consistency matters more than any one perfect week of training

• Recovery as a key part of performance

• How training needs change as you age

• Strength training, calf strength, plyometrics, and core work for runners

• Injury setbacks and using them as opportunities to learn more about your body

• Shannon Rowbury’s femoral neck stress fracture in college and comeback to make her first Olympic team

• The role of biomechanics, leg length differences, orthotics, and maintenance work in staying healthy

• Postpartum return to running and why timelines are highly individual

• What happens to the abdominal wall and pelvic floor during pregnancy and postpartum

• Why more women are returning to elite running after having babies

• The lack of pregnancy and postpartum resources for athletes and why Strong as a Mother was written

• Pelvic floor health for runners and why it matters for both women and men

• Shannon Rowbury’s delayed Olympic bronze medal from the 2012 1500m

• Doping in sport and the emotional impact of delayed justice

• The importance of clean sport, reform, and fighting for integrity in athletics

• Mental preparation for racing, including visualization, positive cue words, breathing, and smiling

• Race-day strategies for handling hills, fueling, and staying mentally engaged late in the race

• Why menstruation is an important indicator of athlete health

• Low energy availability, RED-S, sleep, and early warning signs for high school and young female runners

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Megan shares how pro running was not always the plan, why she considers herself more of a realist than a dreamer, and how the marathon move came at the right time after a stretch where training fitness was not translating to race results. We talk about learning to stop racing workouts, what changed when she began moving up in distance, and how a strong half marathon helped confirm she was heading the right direction.

We also get into life outside racing, including the unique dynamic of being a twin and having a built-in training partner, the fact that Megan and her husband live with her twin sister and her husband in Boston, and what they actually do to unwind when they are not training. Megan wraps with a message that sticks: you do not always get to choose the timing or even the event, but patience and trust can lead to the breakthrough you were hoping for.

Enjoy this episode with Megan!

Topics Discussed:

• Megan’s 2:25:17 marathon debut and 3rd at CIM (national championship)

• Joining and training with the B.A.A. High Performance Team

• Why the track was not clicking, and the shift away from racing workouts

• Building from half marathon success to marathon readiness

• Marathon training changes: mileage bump, longer workout volume, solo long runs

• CIM race strategy, pack decisions, and the late-race leg shutdown

• Fueling and bottle-grab chaos, plus her gel preferences

• Boston Marathon build: hills, strength on tired legs, and racing a stacked field

• Twin sister training dynamic, competitiveness, and support

• Boston winter stories and “space savers” street parking culture

• Life outside running: TV binges, baking, books, and future goals (dogs, international racing)

• Closing takeaway: patience, timing, and letting the right event find you

Media Mentioned:

Books

• Throne of Glass (series)

• Shield of Sparrows

• Harry Potter (series)

• Divergent (series)

• The Hunger Games (series)

• Twilight (series)

• ACOTAR

TV shows

• Survivor

• Grey’s Anatomy

• Schitt’s Creek

• Love Is Blind

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Olivia runs with OAC out in Boulder and is sponsored by On. Olivia is a steeplechaser, and if you watched the 2024 Olympic Trials, you know exactly why this conversation matters. She took a real shot, put herself into second, and then fell near the finish in one of the most gutting moments of the meet. She was right there, in it, fighting for that team spot, and she opens up about what happened, what it felt like, and how she’s carried that experience forward instead of letting it define her.

Olivia’s story has been one surprise after another. She won the 2023 NCAA title in the steeplechase at Notre Dame, earned 10 All-American honors, and finished top three at seven NCAA championships. She also walked on to Notre Dame and eventually earned a full scholarship, which says a lot about how quickly her belief, consistency, and ceiling have grown.

This one is honest, gritty, and really fun. Olivia is all-in on seeing how far she can take this sport, and it’s hard not to walk away from this conversation believing she’s got some big breakthroughs ahead.

List of topics covered

• Training update and Achilles management after USA Cross Country

• Racing muddy cross country conditions and gutting out a tough day

• Choosing events outside the steeplechase, including a possible 1500 opener

• Non-championship year mindset and racing the Diamond League circuit

• 2024 season setbacks: mono, stress reaction, return to racing quickly

• 2024 Olympic Trials steeplechase fall: what happened and how she processed it

• Early pro experiences and learning to race on the world stage

• NIL with On, the pro recruiting process, and why OAC was the fit

• What she wanted in a pro group: altitude, team environment, structure

• Notre Dame walk-on story, scholarship, NCAA title, and changing expectations

• Family dynamic: twin sister rivalry and support, dad as a sounding board

• Finding steeplechase and winning her first pair of On shoes at Portland Track Festival

• OAC team culture: meeting six days a week, steeple work with Kelsey, training written by Dathan

• Building hobbies and community in Boulder: ceramics, cook club, reading, shows

• Balancing identity outside running and keeping it fun

Media mentioned (books + shows)

Books:

• Cutting for Stone (Abraham Verghese)

• The Covenant of Water (Abraham Verghese)

• The Housemaid series (Freida McFadden)

• The Kite Runner (Khaled Hosseini)

• Sarah J. Maas series mentioned:

  • ACOTAR (A Court of Thorns and Roses)

  • Throne of Glass

  • Crescent City

• Fourth Wing

TV shows:

• Ted Lasso

• The Pitt

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Tristin is a professional marathoner, a two-time Olympic Trials Marathon qualifier, and currently pregnant with her first child, a baby girl due this April. She made her marathon debut in 2019 running 2:40 and has steadily worked her way down to a 2:25 personal best, a testament to her patience, belief, and long-term commitment to the sport.

In this episode, Tristin and I talk about the many transitions she is navigating right now. From stepping away from the ZAP Endurance program following its recent closure, to moving with her husband Andrew to Raleigh, to entering motherhood while still holding big goals as a professional runner. She shares what this waiting season has looked like, emotionally and practically, as she explores sponsorship opportunities and imagines her return to racing post-baby.

We also talk about the USATF Foundation Maternity Grant, which Tristin was awarded, and what it means to feel supported during pregnancy while continuing to identify as a professional athlete with unfinished business.

One of the most fun parts of this episode is that Tristin received surprise messages of encouragement from Sara Vaughn, Kara Goucher, and Stephanie Bruce. These moments add so much heart to the conversation and reflect the deep support within the women’s running community.

I’m cheering so hard for Tristin, and truly believe that any brand would be lucky to have her on their team.

Topics We Cover

• Tristin’s progression from a 2:40 marathon debut to a 2:25 personal best

• Training adjustments and mindset shifts during pregnancy

• Navigating uncertainty after the closure of ZAP Endurance

• What it means to stay committed to elite running while becoming a parent

• The USATF Foundation Maternity Grant and why it matters

• Postpartum racing goals and long-term belief in development

• The emotional side of waiting seasons in professional sport

• Community support and encouragement from fellow elite runners

• Recording in person and how that changes the conversation

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It’s called Out and Back, hosted by professional runners Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson. They train in Flagstaff, they are chasing big goals on the roads, and they bring you straight into the behind the scenes of the marathon lifestyle. This show is training talk with a few detours, and it is exactly the kind of perspective I love adding to the network.

What I love about Rory and Jacob is how curious they are. They are not here for surface level conversations. They want the real details. The stuff you actually want to know if you care about performance, training, racing, and the mental side of showing up when it matters. If you are someone chasing a BQ, an OTQ, or you just want to understand how the pros think about the marathon, you are going to love this podcast.

In this intro episode, I sit down with Rory and Jacob to talk about why they started Out and Back, what they want the show to be, and why they think there has been a gap in marathon specific podcasting. We also get into what it looks like to promote yourself as a professional runner, how they balance training with content, and what success looks like for both of them as they head toward Boston.

I cannot wait for you to hear more from these two, and I am really proud to welcome Out and Back to the Sandy Boy Productions family. Please take one minute right now, go hit subscribe wherever you listen, and then send this to a friend who loves marathon training talk.

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Elise reflects on the mental side of championship racing, developing an alter ego on the track, and what she learned during the 2024 Olympic cycle working one on one with coach Jarred Cornfield. We dig into overtraining, identity as an athlete, and how zooming out and setting process based goals helped her find a healthier balance. She also shares what cross training looks like now (swimming three days a week), why breaking two minutes in the 800 still matters to her, and how she thinks about “racing where you are” on the world stage.

This is such a fun conversation, enjoy!

Topics we cover

• Returning to the show as a two time Olympian

• Joining M11 and what pushed her to make a big change

• Training partners, discomfort, and renewed excitement

• Shifting focus toward the 1500 and what it can unlock for her racing

• The 2024 Trials double and why joy mattered in that build

• Overtraining, burnout, and stepping away from a group environment

• Confidence, an on track alter ego, and showing up locked in

• Cross training and swimming as part of her weekly routine

• Race strategy, mental skills, and setting A/B/C goals

• Big picture career thinking: no regrets, curiosity, and leaving no stone unturned

• Life outside sport: working on her MPH at George Washington University

Books mentioned

• Anxious People by Fredrik Backman

• When Breath Becomes Air by Paul Kalanithi

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In this conversation, we talk about what it was really like going pro so young, how different that decision might look today with NIL, and how his perspective has shifted ten years into his career. Drew opens up about setting goals based on what genuinely excites him, why road racing has become such a big focus, and how he’s thinking about longevity in the sport as both an athlete and a dad. We also talk about family life, faith, and the importance of community, especially as he and his wife prepare to welcome their third child.

What I appreciated most about this episode is how grounded Drew is in who he is now. He reflects honestly on early loneliness, big expectations, and how his definition of success has changed over time. This conversation goes well beyond race results and gets into what it looks like to build a meaningful life alongside big athletic goals. I really enjoyed this one, and I hope you do too.

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Topics Discussed:

• Drew’s indoor season plans, upcoming 3K, and building toward Millrose

• How he’s thinking about 2026 goals and the World Road Running Championships in Copenhagen

• What excites him when he sets goals and why he likes mixing in road racing

• Why road racing feels like the future of the sport and how it brings fans into it

• Becoming a dad young, building a family, and how that shifts his mindset around running

• Community, church, and why having people nearby matters for parenting and life

• Converting to Catholicism and how he explored faith through reading and learning

• How he met his wife and how COVID changed the timeline

• Choosing to go pro out of high school, how NIL changes that decision now, and the realities of pro life

• Loneliness early in his pro career, moving to Boulder, and building Tin Man Elite and his training setup with his parents

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They talk through the quick turnaround from their December marathons, what it takes to recover and race again, and how their shared approach to training has made the work more fun and more sustainable. The conversation also gets into the behind-the-scenes of being coached by their husbands, how they collaborate as a four-person team, and what it looks like to balance ambition with longevity, family life, and joy in the process.

Sara shares more about her upcoming memoir, For the Love of the Grind, including why she wanted to write it and the lessons she hopes athletes take from it.

Topics Discussed:

• Houston Marathon recap and going 1–2 together

• Back-to-back marathons and managing the recovery window

• Sara’s original plan to run the half, and why she finished the full marathon

• How Calli stayed composed when things got hard early in the race

• Training partnership: why they are better together and how they compromise

• Their husbands coaching them and how the dynamic works day to day

• Strengths they bring to the group: long run strength, speed work, and racing frequency

• “Loving the grind,” longevity, and Sara’s mindset shift over the years

• Sara’s book For the Love of the Grind and what readers can expect

• Flagstaff training life, and why they love it and hate it

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Topics discussed:

• Laura’s transition from professional runner to coach with On Athletics Club

• How the coaching opportunity came together with Dathan Ritzenhein

• Feeling intimidated and learning to trust herself in a new role

• Laura’s chaotic and hilarious first day on the job

• Building trust and relationships with elite athletes

• Supporting athletes moving from track to roads and the marathon

• Managing expectations and pressure in a very public sport

• Grieving the end of a racing career while embracing a new chapter

• Experiencing race-day highs and lows as a coach instead of an athlete

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Now retired from elite competition, Amanda has built an impressive second career as an on-air analyst for major marathons and championships, including coverage of the 2024 Paris Olympic and Paralympic Games. Lindsey and Amanda talk through her journey into wheelchair racing, the Paralympic moments that meant the most to her, and what it’s been like stepping into the media side of the sport and covering races live on camera.

Amanda also shares her role as Team USA Archivist and Collection Curator, offering insight into how she’s stayed deeply connected to the sport she helped shape. From early memories of discovering adaptive sports, to racing tactics and strategy, to reinvention after setbacks, this conversation highlights Amanda’s impact as both an athlete and a visible leader in Paralympic sport today.

Topics Covered:

• Discovering wheelchair racing and adaptive sport at a young age

• Competing in four Paralympic Games (2008–2021)

• Holding the world record in the 5,000 meters

• Winning major marathons and racing over 100 total marathons

• Transitioning from elite athlete to broadcast analyst

• Covering major marathons, the Olympic Games, and Paralympic Games on live TV

• Becoming Team USA Archivist and Collection Curator

• Representation and visibility in Paralympic sport

• Wheelchair racing tactics, speed, and strategy

• Track racing vs marathon racing in a wheelchair

• The emotional highs and lows of Paralympic competition

• Reinventing training, mindset, and approach after setbacks

• Knowing when it was time to retire from elite competition

• Staying active after retirement without training like a professional

• Growth of Paralympic media coverage and fan engagement

• The role of technology and equipment in wheelchair racing

• Equity challenges in access to top-tier racing chairs

• Balancing social media, storytelling, and personal boundaries

• Saying yes to opportunities and trusting the process

Media Recommendations:

Books

• A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith

• Harry Potter series

TV Shows

• Taskmaster

• Loot

• Severance

• Shrinking

• Ted Lasso

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Donna Marathon Weekend — Jacksonville, FL, February 1–2, 2025. Supports breast cancer research and families impacted by diagnosis. Register at breastcancermarathon.com and use LINDSEY10 for $10 off.

Whitney shares how motherhood changed her relationship with running, the experience of feeling isolated as a new mom, and how that led her to create an online resource and community specifically for mother runners. She opens up about navigating a long injury cycle and the process of returning to the marathon to run a 2:54 in her 40s. Whitney also talks about what it’s like stepping into her own podcast after co-hosting Miles With Moms, and why storytelling matters so much in this space.

This episode is airing on both I’ll Have Another and The Mother Runners, making it the perfect way to kick off this new chapter.

About The Mother Runners Podcast:

There is truly no shortage of incredible and inspiring mother runners in the world. Every mom has such a good story—no matter how much they run, how fast, how far, or for how long—embedded in all of our journeys are chapters of strength, hope and overcoming that we all need to hear. Because when we hear each other’s stories, not only are we lifting each other up, but we are learning and growing, being inspired, and motivated. That’s why this podcasts features in-depth and fun interviews with fellow moms who run to share their stories—some names you may recognize, and some you will get to know. But all will inspire and entertain you. Thanks for being here!

Where to Find Whitney

Instagram: @themotherrunners
Website: themotherrunners.com
Podcast: The Mother Runners (Apple, Spotify, all major platforms)

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Lindsey Hein Coaching & Training Plans
I’ve been coaching runners since 2013 and currently have space for a few one-on-one athletes. If you’re training for your first half or marathon, chasing a PR, or aiming to qualify for Boston, I take a holistic, week-by-week approach to coaching. I also offer half marathon and marathon training plans for beginner through advanced runners, designed with conservative mileage progression and simple strength and mobility work. Visit https://lindseyhein.com and use the code DECEMBER2025 to get $10 off training plans through the end of the year. If you’re interested in one-on-one coaching, email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com.

What we talked about:

• Sinclaire’s Merrie Mile win in Honolulu and the 4:21 American record

• Racing with no clocks, no splits, and a pacer plan that changed in real time

• Why this fall felt different and why she feels stronger than ever right now

• Being coached by her fiance Craig and what changed in her training and communication

• The mental side of returning from repeated bone injuries and reframing fear

• Feeling unheard in past training groups and why athlete coach communication matters

• Advice for young pros choosing a coach, team, and a life outside running

• Olympic Trials 2024, running 3:56 for fourth, and what she learned from it

• World Champs season takeaways and learning to adjust without blame

• Cross training as a core strategy and how she structures volume off her legs

• Indoor season plans and what she is excited to chase next

• How world rankings work and what the new “Ultimate Championships” format looks like

• Favorite event order: track 1500, road mile, track mile

• Life outside running: bread baking, what she is reading, and what she is watching

• Last message: being your biggest advocate and trusting your intuition

Media mentioned

• Book: The Remarkable Life of Irawati Karve

• Show: The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

• Music artist group: RÜFÜS DU SOL

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Check out Brad’s work and pre order his newest book at BradStulberg.com

What we talked about:

• December as a natural season for reflection, and the tension of “ramping down” while launching something big
• The Way of Excellence and how excellence can be a mindset you practice, not just an outcome you achieve
• “Brave New World” as a fear-to-curiosity reframe for big moments (races, interviews, parenting, hard lifts)
• Curiosity vs fear, and why curiosity helps you perform better (and feel better) under pressure
• Caring deeply as the cost of stepping into the arena, and why “too cool to care” is actually insecurity
• Excellence as heartfelt (not robotic) and a critique of “pseudo excellence” culture and optimization obsession
• Cold plunges and “hacks”: what’s legit, what’s hype, and when hard things are useful vs unnecessary
• Identity and the “house with rooms” metaphor (runner, parent, creative, partner) so one setback doesn’t collapse your whole sense of self
• Reading vs short-form video for attention, cognition, and emotional health, plus habits that support focus
• New Year goals: why resolutions fail, and how values-based goal setting helps you climb the right mountain

Sponsors:

Eternal
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Lagoon Sleep
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Lindsey Hein Coaching & Training Plans
I’ve been coaching runners since 2013 and currently have space for a few one-on-one athletes. If you’re training for your first half or marathon, chasing a PR, or aiming to qualify for Boston, I take a holistic, week-by-week approach to coaching. I also offer half marathon and marathon training plans for beginner through advanced runners, designed with conservative mileage progression and simple strength and mobility work. Visit https://lindseyhein.com and use the code DECEMBER2025 to get $10 off training plans through the end of the year. If you’re interested in one-on-one coaching, email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com.

Brad’s new book, The Way of Excellence, is linked here. Thanks so much for being here and for supporting the Wellness Series.

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Lagoon — Personalized pillows designed for optimal rest and recovery. Try their new cooling pillow, “The Otter.” Visit lagoonSleep.com/lindsey and enjoy their Black Friday sale (early access now!) to enjoy: $25 off every pillow, $60 off two pillows, $160 off four pillows (so $40 off each), 50% off pillowcases with the purchase of a pillow

Enjoy my conversation with Meghann!

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We get into how life looks right now with two young daughters, how she and her husband are tag-teaming work and parenting, and what it has been like to train and race while breastfeeding. Molly explains why she chose this marathon as a fundraising opportunity for For All Mothers+, how she approached the effort on the day, and what she learned about her current fitness and recovery.

Molly also talks about where she is with professional running at age 41, her hope to qualify for another Olympic Marathon Trials, and what it means to her to compete in a “part-time” or “semi-retired” way while she leans into coaching, writing, and parenting. We talk about identity shifts in motherhood, the invisible work that goes into raising kids, and how to stay engaged with the sport even when the goals and timelines look different than they did in your twenties.

Finally, Molly shares more about the new pregnancy and postpartum running book she is co-writing, the research she is excited about, and her thoughts on aging, body image, and what it really means to let running “light you up,” whatever season of life you are in.

Topics Discussed:

• Molly’s decision to run the Every Woman’s Marathon six months postpartum

• Using a marathon as a long training run instead of an all-out effort

• Balancing breastfeeding, travel, and race-day logistics with a baby and a toddler

• Fundraising and partnering with For All Mothers+ at the race

• How the Every Woman’s Marathon creates an unintimidating, women-centered race experience

• Postpartum training, injury history, and choosing a more cautious path back

• Shifting identity from full-time pro runner to part-time competitor, coach, and writer

• Motherhood, invisible labor, and how priorities around work and running change

• Body image, aging, and pressure around appearance and performance

• The new pregnancy and postpartum running book and current women’s health research

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Today’s conversation is a special live recording from that weekend, where I sat down with Sophie King and Trevor Spencer. Trevor is one of the co-hosts of the Marathon Training Academy podcast, and Sophie King is a professional runner based in Richmond with an incredibly compelling story. Sophie made her marathon debut right here in Richmond in 2021 and later ran a 2:34 at CIM in 2023. She was on track for big things before suffering a torn plantar fascia that ultimately kept her from competing at the Olympic Trials, but what struck me most about this conversation is her perspective, her honesty, and her belief that her best years are still ahead of her.

Sophie comes from a swimming background and only transitioned fully to running in recent years, which makes her rise in the sport even more impressive. She speaks openly about setbacks, rebuilding confidence after injury, learning to trust her body again, and continuing to chase big goals despite the detours. There is a calm strength to the way she talks about her journey, and I loved hearing her articulate not only her ambitions but her deep gratitude for the process as well.

This was one of those conversations that felt too meaningful not to share publicly. Her story, her mindset, and her vulnerability deserve to be heard, and I’m so excited for you to listen.

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• Aletheia Run lets you see what your body is actually doing with every step by using a lightweight sensor that creates a unique force portrait of your movement. It gives personalized feedback, targeted drills, and science-backed insights to improve performance and help prevent injuries, bringing the running lab right to your everyday training.
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I wanted to break it all down with two people who experienced the weekend right alongside me. My friend Ally Brettnacher is here — she’s the host of Finish Lines & Milestones, part of the Sandyboy Productions network, and she always brings such a fun perspective from the everyday runner community. Emily Infeld also joins us. She was the guest of honor at Monumental this year — she helped start the race, she handed out medals at the finish line, she sat down for an interview at the expo, and she joined me for our live podcast at the post-race celebration. Emily barely needs an introduction, but here’s a quick one: she’s an Olympian, a US national champion, a five-time track world finalist, and she won the 10,000m national title this summer after ten years filled with surgeries, setbacks, comebacks, and breakthroughs. She’s sponsored by Brooks Running.

Brooks partnered with us through Athletic Annex for the weekend, which was really special since Emily is a Brooks athlete. My relationship with Athletic Annex goes back more than a decade — I helped them with social media and events long before I started hosting live podcasts, and they’ve supported every single event I’ve brought to Indianapolis since. Every time I’m back home for a shakeout run, a live show, or anything related to the Monumental, they’re right there with me.

This year we hosted our biggest post-race party yet, and I’ll be honest — I was nervous nobody would buy tickets. I wanted it to be an elevated event, with great food, drinks, a killer goodie bag, and a chance for everyone to actually celebrate their race. We ended up selling out and even added extra tickets at the door. One of the biggest hits was the Indy poster Ally designed — inspired by iconic race posters at major marathons — where everyone could stencil in their finishing time. It was so fun watching people make their own little Monumental keepsake. Our vision is to make this weekend feel a little more like the big-city marathon experience: a Friday shakeout run, community events, and a post-race celebration every year moving forward.

One thing I’m especially proud of is that we were able to donate $500 from the event back to the Monumental Kids Movement — a school-based running and wellness program. Beyond Monumental does such meaningful work with kids year after year, and I’m glad we could give back to that mission.

Huge thanks to everyone who came to the race, the expo, the live show, and the party — it meant so much. If you enjoyed this episode or were part of the weekend, a quick rating and review goes a long way. And if you’re already planning on Monumental 2026 — and I know some of you type-A runners are — make sure you’re in town for the Friday shakeout and the post-race party. We’re already excited for next year.

Sponsors of the live show:

Athletic Annex
Brooks Running
Foot Levelers
Previnex
Bottleworks Hotel
Rachel Michelle Running
StretchLab
TwentySixDiamond

Noogs
Athlete Bouquets (owned by Ally Brettnacher)

Topics we cover

• NYC race plan, surges, and key course sections

• Passing Sifan Hassan late and protecting position

• Solo miles, crowd energy, and managing pain honestly

• Fueling: UCAN gels (alternating caffeine) and electrolytes

• Training consistency, hamstring care, and support team

• Mindset: visualization, mantras, and choosing helpful thoughts

• Tactical Majors vs time trial courses

• Post-race recovery, winter training, and 2026 goals

Media and links mentioned

• Book: Let Your Mind Run by Deena Kastor

• Music: Hans Zimmer; Ramin Djawadi soundtracks; Florence and the Machine (new album)

• Podcasts: Amy Poehler’s show; The Telepathy Tapes

• Team/Sponsor: Minnesota Distance Elite; Puma

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Topics discussed:
• Emily’s path to sports psychology and why movement is a vehicle for growth
• The “helpful vs. unhelpful” reframe for plans, workouts, and expectations
• Process goals and experience goals that support performance
• Building a mental race plan by chunking time, course sections, and fuel windows
• What to do when discomfort shows up early and how to choose your next best action
• Keeping attention in the present and letting completed chunks count as wins
• Why success is self-defined and how to let running serve your life

Media recommended:
• Mindfulness by Ellen Langer
• The Mindful Body by Ellen Langer
• Emily’s site: esaulmovement.com

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Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans!

Use code wellness for $10 off on any training plans!

DONNA Marathon Weekend (Jacksonville, FL | Jan 30–Feb 1) — Funds breast cancer research and supports patients. I’ll be there! breastcancermarathon.com — code: LINDSEY10 for $10 off.

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Carolyn shares her background as a physiotherapist, how she shifted into health coaching and eventually running coaching, and how she found her own love for the sport later in life. We talk through her long journey with the marathon — the near misses, the tough races, the canceled races, the heat DNFs — and the fire she still has at age 48 to run her fastest marathon yet. She also talks about family life, her husband’s running, raising teenagers, and what her coaching roster looks like today. This is a rich conversation about longevity, learning, curiosity, and chasing big goals no matter your age.

Topics discussed:

• Welcoming Inspired Soles to the network

• Why Canadian representation in running media matters

• Carolyn’s shifts from physio to health coach to running coach

• The early running memories that shaped her beliefs

• Her breakthrough years and chasing sub-3:20

• Chicago 2020 getting canceled and the virtual marathon

• Heat cancellations, injuries, GI issues, and all the almost-PRs

• Training for the Marathon Project

• Running with her husband and pacing each other

• How her kids relate to running and movement

• Coaching everyday runners and creating community

• Future ideas around philanthropy and supporting women chasing big goals

• What inspires her right now

Media recommended:

• Running the Dream

• Don’t Tell Me You’re Afraid

• Rory Linkletter’s YouTube channel

• Rory and Jill Linkletter on Inspired Soles Podcast (EP 241)
• Ben Flanagan on the Inspired Soles Podcast (EP 261)

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Indianapolis Monumental Marathon Weekend: I’ll be your race emcee at the Monumental Marathon — come find me at the start or finish line!

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We walk through the course from start to finish, dial in race-week mindset and pacing, and talk about how to stay steady when the race gets quiet. I also share all the weekend details: Friday shakeout, expo panels, and our post-race celebration at Bottleworks with special guest Emily Infeld. If you’re racing the 5K, half, or full, I’ll see you at the start and the finish. Hugs are absolutely welcome.

Weekend details

• Friday, Nov 7 – 9:00 a.m. Shakeout run at Bottleworks Hotel with Brooks Running and Athletic Annex. Meet out front. Snacks after.
• Friday, Nov 7 – Expo Elite Athlete Panel at 3:30 p.m. and a 4:30 p.m. fireside chat with Emily Infeld.
• Saturday, Nov 8 – 4:30–6:30 p.m. Post-race party at Bottleworks Hotel. I’ll record a 30-minute chat with Emily from 5:00–5:30.
  • Tickets via EventBrite HERE. Use code lindsey10 for $10 off.

Topics we discussed:

• Why Indy Monumental is a PR-ready course
• How to pace the first 10K and avoid early mistakes
• Where the course gets quiet and how to stay locked in
• Marathon and half marathon strategy for Indy
• Mindset cues for the last 10K
• Fueling basics and respecting the distance
• Celebrating every finish line

Media Recommended:

Books

• Once Around Is Enough — memoir by legendary 400m coach Clyde Hart

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We also talk about what it means to actually race a marathon versus just running one — how fueling, composure, and mindset have evolved for him, and why he’s shifting his focus away from chasing a specific time and toward racing with courage at the front of major marathons. Rory shares openly about coaching transitions, what he learned from Boston, how he’s thinking about LA 2028, and how he balances training with being a dad of two. It’s a fun, honest conversation with someone who isn’t afraid to say big goals out loud and back them up with the work.

Topics we Discussed:

• Chicago PR and the Canadian record chase

• From running marathons to racing them

• Fueling practice on every long run

• Coaching with Ryan Hall to Jon Green

• Composure during the race

• Why he’s shelving the record goal

• Racing the group vs. running your own race

• Building toward LA 2028

• Family travel and dad life

• Sports fandom and downtime

• Books and podcasts he’s into

Media and Mentions:

• Books:

  • Greenlights by Matthew McConaughey

  • Ernest Shackleton and Endurance (explorer and book referenced)

  • Matthew McConaughey’s new book Rory referenced: Poems and Prayers

• Podcasts Rory listens to:

  • Pardon My Take

  • The Bill Simmons Podcast

  • The Ryen Russillo Show

• Sports fandom: Baltimore Ravens, Denver Nuggets, Calgary Flames, Boston Red Sox

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• Follow Lindsey: @lindseyhein626 and find more shows at sandyboyproductions.com.

• Got a milestone or story for Indy? DM @lindseyhein626 or email lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com so she can give you a shout on race day.

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Indianapolis Monumental Marathon Weekend: I’ll be your race emcee at the Monumental Marathon — come find me at the start or finish line!

Aubrey and I talk about what it’s like to jump to the marathon at such a young age, her transition from BYU and Coach Diljeet Taylor to training with Ed Eyestone’s team, and how she’s learned to master fueling after some hard lessons from her first marathon. She shares openly about her hamstring injury, her mindset through setbacks, and how she’s learning to love the process—especially the marathon training itself. We also chat about her classroom life, her dog (who’s very impatient during her recovery!), her husband’s support while he’s in PT school, and her plans for a spring marathon once she’s healthy again.

This is such an honest, down-to-earth conversation with an athlete who’s finding her rhythm and confidence in the professional world while keeping perspective and joy in the process.

Topics Discussed

• Aubrey’s progression from 2:35 to 2:27 in the marathon

• Joining Ed Eyestone’s training group and the team’s growing energy

• Balancing running with teaching middle school math

• Managing a hamstring injury and recovery process

• The highs and lows of marathon racing and mental waves mid-race

• Fueling lessons and working with a sports dietitian

• Transitioning from BYU and Coach Diljeet Taylor to professional training

• Learning from mentorship and teammates like Keira D’Amato and Courtney Frerichs

• Her love for marathon training and what’s next on her race calendar

• Non-running life: family, travel, and her dog

Media Recommended

• Book: Don’t Call It a Comeback by Keira D’Amato

• Show: Chad Powers (Hulu)

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Jamie shares what it’s like running a multigenerational business, how Foot Levelers orthotics are designed to support all three arches of the foot for optimal stability, and why their custom approach sets them apart in the wellness industry. She also opens up about her daily habits, how she stays organized amid a busy schedule, and the importance of setting clear goals.

I share about my own experience using Foot Levelers orthotics since May and how much they’ve helped support my high arches. Whether you’re curious about better foot health or simply want inspiration from a driven leader and working mom, this episode offers a great mix of motivation and practical takeaways.

Topics Discussed

• Foot Levelers’ partnership with the Blue Ridge Marathon and community wellness

• The history and family legacy behind Foot Levelers

• How custom orthotics work and why supporting all three arches matters

• Relationship between chiropractic care, biomechanics, and lower back health

• Types of orthotics for different lifestyles and activity levels

• Jamie’s running background and balancing wellness as a working mom

• Creating a “life club” — goal setting and accountability with friends

• Work-life balance, slowing down, and finding joy in small moments

• The importance of alignment and authenticity in business partnerships

• Foot Levelers’ new partnership with professional runner Sarah Hall

Media Recommended

• • Book: The AI-Driven Leader by Jeff Woods — A guide to using artificial intelligence to improve leadership, problem-solving, and innovation.

  • Book: Endurance by Alfred Lansing — The story of explorer Ernest Shackleton’s Antarctic expedition

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Today I’m recapping the Chicago Marathon with the one and only Emily Venters. I spoke with Emily at the pre-race press conference — she was so excited to debut the marathon. If you had her on your tracker, you saw that things went sideways on race day. In this conversation, Emily shares the full story of what unfolded on the course and how she handled it — with so much grace, grit, and determination. She crossed that finish line about an hour off her goal time, finishing with the masses — something you almost never see a pro do — and there are so many powerful lessons in how she did it.

If you’re new to Emily, she was on the show back in May after breaking 15 in the 5K (episode 609). She debuted the half in Houston, placed 5th at the US Half Marathon Championships, and owns a 68:48 PR in the half. She runs for Nike, lives in Utah, and is coached by Ed Eyestone. Emily is also a leukemia survivor (diagnosed at age 3), and she was raising money for that cause in Chicago — another reason finishing meant so much to her. I was at the finish looking for her with my friend (and relay co-host) Erika Kemp, and watching Emily come down that stretch was emotional and inspiring.

Go give Emily a follow and a big virtual hug: @VentersEmily on Instagram. We are so proud of you, Emily — can’t wait to see what you do next.

Topics Discussed

1. The decision to finish anyway after a prolonged stop in the med tent.

2. Overheating & low sodium symptoms starting as early as miles 6–8.

3. Rejoining with the masses — dodging cups, weaving through runners, lost bottle tables.

4. Improvising fueling — grabbing Gatorade cups, a spectator’s Coke, and a body-armor drink.

5. The Biofreeze-in-the-eye moment — chaos of the mass field.

6. Letting go of ego — finishing with a much slower time vs. DNF.

7. Ties to her leukemia story and fundraising as motivation to finish.

8. Learning the marathon’s science (sweat rate, sodium, carbs) vs. half/10K.

9. Support system — Ed Eyestone, teammates, and the pro road community.

10. Mindset work — journaling, daily “how do I feel?” check-ins, and redefining success.

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Jay is such a kind and humble person, and his passion for helping runners move better and stay healthy really shines through in this conversation. He’s a faculty member at Oregon State University and has built an international reputation for his expertise in biomechanical analysis, injury prevention, and performance training. His career has spanned directing the Speed Clinic at the University of Virginia, running an independent lab in Oregon, and consulting with everyone from USA Track & Field to the U.S. Air Force.

I felt like I got a free consultation during this interview! Jay truly elevates the standard of care for athletes, therapists, and coaches everywhere. I think you’re going to walk away from this one feeling motivated, inspired, and ready to commit to your strength work.

Topics Covered:

• Jay’s backstory / path to running PT

• Prepping the body before building mileage

• Simple posture/form cues that stick

• Movement learning (focus over multitasking)

• Where to start: short “precision” sessions + strength work

• Treadmill pros/cons and pacing by effort

• Tendon basics: slow loading and pain guidelines

• Finding the right PT and communicating clearly

• Foot strength & MOBO fundamentals

Media Recommended:

• Running Rewired: Reinvent Your Run for Stability, Strength, and Speed — Jay Dicharry (2nd edition referenced).

• The Midnight Library — Matt Haig.

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Keira is now training in Utah under coach Ed Eyestone, and this conversation is exactly what you’d expect from her—fun, honest, and inspiring. It’s been a while since she’s been on the show, and she always makes it so easy to root for her. I’m so excited for you to hear what’s next in her journey and to celebrate this new chapter as an author.

Topics Discussed:

• Book tour feelings & “imposter” author vibes

• Working with co-writer Evelyn Spence + keeping Keira’s voice; how the title Don’t Call It a Comeback happened

• Handling mainstream attention vs “real-life” mom Keira; separating personas

• Early motherhood, loneliness, and how running/community helped

• Move to Utah; choosing coach Ed Eyestone; altitude + team culture; big Sunday-off change and training differences

• Being 41: masters records, recovery tweaks, and (not yet) perimenopause

• Racing update: 69’ half in Copenhagen; choosing Valencia Marathon; taking the kids along

• Broadcasting experience (Chicago) and learning from front-row views of elite marathoning

• Storytelling/DJ/“life bits”and why telling your own stories matters

• Olympic Trials disappointment, lessons, resilience, and modeling that for her kids

Media Mentioned:

• Books

  • Don’t Call It a Comeback — Keira D’Amato

  • My Friends — Fredrik Backman

  • A Man Called Ove — Fredrik Backman

  • Anxious People — Fredrik Backman

  • How to Tell a Story — The Moth

• Shows / Film

  • Taskmaster (UK comedy series)

  • The Sex Lives of College Girls (HBO)

  • The Summer I Turned Pretty (Prime Video)

• Podcasts

  • Relay

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Claire’s own experience struggling to fuel properly as a new runner led her to change careers and devote her work to helping others do it better. In our conversation, she shares practical guidance for athletes of all levels—whether you’re training for your first 5K or your tenth ultra—on how to approach nutrition to support your running, recovery, and overall wellness.

This was such a fun and informative conversation, and I hope it leaves you feeling more confident about fueling your body to feel well and run well.

What we discussed:

• Claire’s path from classical musician/oboe player (Yale) to sports dietitian & endurance runner

• Her philosophy: looking at the “whole person” (life landscape, health history, lab work, lifestyle)

• Balancing everyday nutrition with training & race-day fueling

• Common mistakes endurance athletes make — especially under-eating carbs

• Tracking food intake without triggering disordered-eating tendencies

• Protein, carbs & fueling as we age: peri/menopause, bone health, energy availability

• Athlete performance plates & learning what “enough” really looks like

• Her advice for new marathoners: start by adding more carbs and always fuel before/after workouts

Media Recommended:

• Eat for Endurance podcast – eatforendurance.com

• Book: Practical Fueling for Endurance Athletes by Kylie Van Horn

• Claire’s IG: @eatforendurance

• Kylie’s IG: @flynutrition3

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Top topics discussed:

• Move back to Colorado; coaching change to Steve Magness and why
• 2024 Trials debrief: why finishing was a mistake and what it cost her
• Nagoya marathon: mid-race pacing error, learning to “juggle variables,” and 2:23:51 redemption
• Marathon wisdom: negotiating with yourself, managing heat/pace, “be a wise old lady” early
• Injury context (sciatic/nerve chain), lessons on knowing when to stop
• Leaving the Puma elite group; need for individualized training and life/work separation
• Why Chicago: organized pacing, fast course, contract timing, field fit and top-10 aim
• What she values in Steve Magness as a coach: collaboration, individualized volume, mental side of performance
• Career perspective: longevity, duality of highs/lows, inspired to keep going through 2028
• Life outside running: Denver community, mountains, coffee shops, dancing; writing goals/book ideas

Media mentioned:

• Books: The Goldfinch (Donna Tartt), A New Earth (Eckhart Tolle), The Alchemist (Paulo Coelho)
• Music (karaoke pick): Aretha Franklin — “Chain of Fools”

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Topics we cover

• Dr. Juergens’ 36 years in sports-focused chiropractic care

• What’s really happening when you hear the “pop”

• Safe vs. unsafe back-popping for kids

• Feet as the foundation: pronation, arches, orthotics

• Balance and hamstring flexibility for runners

• Kinesiology tape basics and postural taping

• When to add PT or imaging and how often to get adjusted

• Quick drills for runners and posture tips

Media & resources mentioned

• Eternal — performance health plans: eternal.co (code ANOTHER10)

• Foot Levelers — custom three-arch orthotics (via providers): footlevelers.com

• Dr. Kurt Juergens — Chiropractic & Sports Rehab Center (Houston, TX)

• Kinesiology Tape

• MOBO Board — balance/foot stability tool Lindsey mentioned using

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Top topics discussed

• Julia’s emotions and confusion at the finish line in Tokyo

• Handling the late hills and hot, humid conditions

• Fueling and hydration strategies with Maurten

• Race mindset: patience, pack dynamics, and not counting herself out

• From being ranked 288th to winning bronze — mental approach and confidence

• Processing the sudden media attention and national pride from Uruguay

• Her running journey: childhood in England, Penn State/Arkansas NCAA experience, injuries, and transition to Flagstaff

• Training now: mileage, long run workouts, and strength work with McKirdy Trained

• Goals for faster marathon and half marathon times, and thoughts on majors like London and Boston

Media mentioned

• Books: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, The Silent Patient

• TV/Film: One Tree Hill, 90210, The Hills, High Five (kids’ show)

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I first started seeing Boris in May for bursitis in my foot and Achilles tendonitis. I also asked if he could help with a strange itchy-arm condition I’ve dealt with every summer for over 10 years. Since then, he’s supported me not only with those issues, but also with nervous system regulation and anxiety. In this episode, Boris explains what acupuncture really is, what it can help with, and how it fits into traditional Chinese medicine. You’ll hear about herbs, dry needling, nervous system regulation, and why even a simple monthly visit can feel restorative.

Topics we cover:

• My personal path to acupuncture and what has changed for me

• Acupuncture within traditional Chinese medicine: the core branches

• How needles work today vs historically, and what “qi” actually means

• Nervous system regulation, rest and digest, and ear points

• Herbal medicine: warming vs cooling herbs and customizing formulas

• Common conditions acupuncture treats well, and when PT or other care is better

• Dry needling compared to acupuncture

• What a session feels like: environment, cost, insurance, and community models

• Boris’s marathon training, fueling, and love of running

• Tea, coffee, and nervous system effects

• Choosing the right acupuncturist and the role of moderation in health

Media and resources mentioned

• City of Oaks Acupuncture: cityofoaksacupuncture.com

• Books: He Who Fights With Monsters; Born to Run; Running with Sherman

• YouTube: “Ran to Japan” channel following Jake’s pro-running journey in Japan

• Events: Bolderthon marathon; Leadville burro race

• Fuel and gear mentioned: Tailwind, Huma gels, NOOGS, Brooks

• Tea site: Path of Cha (pathofcha.com)

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We talk about what it’s been like closing the chapter with ZAP Endurance (her training group), navigating training without a permanent team, fueling and long runs, and how the marathon is already helping her grow as an athlete. Amanda opens up about her strengths and struggles, what she’s still chasing on the track, and how she’s approaching this next step with a mindset of curiosity and joy.

If you’re a fan of process-oriented training, women’s distance running, or just rooting for good people doing big things, this one’s for you. Follow Amanda on Instagram at @a_vestri and follow me at @lindseyhein626.

Topics we cover:

• Amanda’s decision to debut the marathon at NYC

• The cancelation of the World Half Marathon Championships

• Closing the ZAP Endurance chapter

• Training solo and finding support

• Long runs, fueling, and race prep

• Watching Team USA women at Worlds

• Championship vs. time trial racing styles

• Her future goals on the track (including breaking 15:00!)

• Finding confidence through half marathons and road races

• Running as a lifelong practice, not just for competition

• Book talk and Ellen Hildebrand obsessions

What Amanda’s loving lately:
Welcome to the Beach Town by Susan Wiggs
Anything by Elin Hilderbrand
Lindsey recommends: Nora Goes Off Script and Summer Romance by Annabel Monahan

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What we talked about:

• How Dr. Carla blended endocrinology with sport to serve athletic women
• The athlete’s frustration in standard care and how to choose a provider who “gets” training and nutrition
• Hormone testing 101: test to answer a specific question, not “everything”
• Perimenopause basics: a 6–8 year transition, why it feels “chaotic,” and what to do first
• HRT vs hormone therapy: who needs replacement, who is treating symptoms, and risk/benefit basics
• Sleep, hot flashes, and why symptom relief can indirectly support body composition
• Bone health: fueling first, protein, heavy lifting, plyometrics, and running as load for bone
• Weighted vests: when they help, when they hurt, practical rules to use them safely
• Strength for runners: carving out on- and off-seasons, keeping a base, and using coaching wisely
• Body types, goals, and social media noise; Cortisol 101 and why recovery brings the gains

Resources Mentioned:

• Provider directory: menopause.org (look for MSCP-credentialed clinicians)

• Community: Feisty Menopause and the Hit Play Not Pause ecosystem

• Reading: Stacy Sims’ books for nutrition and training guidance for active women

• Blog: Dr. Carla’s Athletic Aging blog on evidence-based training and menopause

• Eternal: eternal.co with code ANOTHER10

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Episode Topics:

• Tokyo travel strategy for a 13-hour flight
• Post-race sightseeing
• Engagement update and wedding planning timeline
• Race nails and pre-race rituals
• Worlds team count, medal goals, and mindset
• USA 1500 tactics and confidence in the kick
• Racing strategy vs. Nikki Hiltz and Diamond League reps
• 14:45 indoor 5K PR, skipping the USA 5K, indoor vs. outdoor
• Coaching change to Pete Julian, move to Boulder, training partners, speed-focused work

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Today I’m joined by Dr. Heather McKee, a behavior change specialist who helps people “find joy in their healthy habits.” We get into why many motivated runners (hi, us!) still struggle with the “extras” like strength, mobility, recovery, nutrition, and medical check-ins — and how to finally make those stick.

Heather explains how to connect habits to your own why so the motivation is “sticky,” what a minimum viable habit looks like in real life, and how to use flexible scaling instead of all-or-nothing thinking. We talk about “goal dilution,” the power of habit stacking, and how to become a “habit detective” using cues-routine-reward to bend unhelpful behaviors. I even share my own fidgety tendencies, and Heather offers a super practical re-route I’m going to try immediately.

We wrap with three takeaways you can use today:

• Start with why — what does this change contribute to your life.

• Choose your minimum viable habit — the smallest version you’ll actually do.

• Scale flexibly — define 1–10 versions so the habit survives real life.

Topics Discussed:

• What The Wellness One series is and why I’m doing it

• What Eternal offers and where it’s available

• Runners over-indexing training while neglecting recovery, strength, nutrition, and medical factors

• Intrinsic (“sticky”) motivation — starting with your personal why

• Minimum Viable Habit and consistency (the “one tooth” flossing idea)

• Goal dilution and focusing on one specific change at a time

• Flexible scaling (defining 1–10 versions so habits survive busy seasons)

• Habit loop: cue → routine → reward; becoming a “habit detective”

• Habit stacking and environment design to reduce friction

• Bending unhelpful habits (fidgets, nail/hair picking) and practical replacements

Media Recommendations:

• Good Habits, Bad Habits — Wendy Wood

• Atomic Habits — James Clear

• Unreasonable Hospitality — Will Guidara

• Meditations for Mortals — Oliver Burkeman

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I first met Krissy at the Sir Walter Mile in Raleigh, and I knew right away I wanted to have her on the show. She’s fun, curious, thoughtful, and one of the biggest cheerleaders for the people around her. In this conversation, Krissy opens up about her journey from Furman to Arkansas, how she found her way into the steeplechase, and what it’s been like to train on her own after leaving NAZ Elite. She talks candidly about navigating confidence, nerves, and the mental side of racing — plus what she’s learning about setting boundaries, keeping perspective, and building trust in herself.

You’ll also hear some lighthearted stories — about her dog Miss Oat, her boyfriend Michael, running with her Flagstaff crew, and even playing Fortnite with friends. Krissy is genuine, honest, and refreshingly open about both the highs and the challenges of professional running. I know you’ll enjoy getting to know her just like I did.

Topics Discussed:

• Miss Oat the dog and how having a dog in college shaped Krissy’s routine

• College experience during COVID and transitioning from Furman to Arkansas

• NACAC steeplechase win and what the small field was like

• Sir Walter Mile experience

• Relationship with her boyfriend (meeting story, running goals, Whole Foods job, RBF stereotype)

• Running history: pole vault beginnings, high school mile and state titles, progression to steeplechase

• Transition from NAZ Elite to training independently with Hayden Cox, contract structure, and HOKA details

• Mental side of racing: therapy, nerves vs. excitement, building confidence, and her sunflower timing quote

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We talk about their training, how they’re preparing for this world stage, and what it means to them to wear the Team USA kit. All three women bring such unique stories to the table — Erika with her breakthrough in Houston, Jess coming off her 2:22 at Boston, and Susanna balancing teaching with elite training. Their PRs are all within a minute of each other, so it’ll be exciting to see how the race plays out and if they can run together.

The women’s marathon takes place on September 14th — mark your calendars so you can cheer on Erika, Jess, and Susanna! I can’t wait to watch and celebrate these finish line moments with them.

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Now Rachel calls Williams, Arizona home, where she lives and trains. She’s sponsored by Merrell and has already built an impressive resume in the sub-ultra trail world, with multiple podium finishes including winning the USA Half Marathon Trail Championships in 2021. She’s also been second at the USA Mountain Championships, the USA Mountain Classic, and the USA Mountain Vertical Championship.

Rachel brings so much positive energy and grit to the sport, and I can’t wait for you to hear more about her story, her training, and what’s ahead for her career.

What we talked about:

• Cirque Series Race Recap and Atmosphere

• Golden Trail vs. Cirque Series and the Sub-Ultra Trail Scene

• High School and College Career (Nike Nationals, Steeplechase at Baylor, Six-Time All-American)

• Going Pro with Furman Elite, Injuries, and Eating Disorder Recovery

• Coaching at Liberty University and Early Professional Doubts

• Discovering Trail Running and First Big Trail Races

• Representing Team USA and Medaling at World Championships

• Mental Game, Sports Psychology, and Overcoming Downhill Fears

• Coaching with Wild Strides and Building Community with Grayson Murphy and Courtney Coppinger

• Sponsorships, Trail Challenges, and Wildlife Encounters

Media Recommendations:

Book: Run the Mile You’re In by Ryan Hall

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Topics Discussed:

• Making her first U.S. team in the 800 meters
• The lean at the line and race tactics at USAs
• Managing nerves and risk in crowded 800s
• Differences between racing the 800 and 1500
• Training alongside teammates like Josette Andrews
• Pacing experience, including Faith Kipyegon’s world record
• Shifting focus toward the 1500 in the future
• Bouncing back from missing previous teams
• Mental and physical prep for the World Championships in Tokyo
• Support from family and what this moment means in her career

Media Recommendations:

• Book: The Anthropocene Reviewed by John Green
• Book: Paper Towns by John Green
• Book: Turtles All the Way Down by John Green
• TV Show: The Gilded Age (HBO Max)

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Lexy is fresh off a breakout season: she took second at NCAAs this spring while competing for BYU and is now officially Tokyo-bound to represent Team USA. She’s coached by Diljeet Taylor (who also coached her at BYU), and she’s already clocked a 9:08 steeple.

In this episode, Lexy breaks down the entire race — how it unfolded, what was going through her head, and how it feels to make the U.S. team. We also talk about her progression in the event, her relationship with Coach Taylor, and what she’s most looking forward to this season.

If you haven’t watched the race yet, I highly recommend pausing this and pulling it up — search 2025 USA steeplechase championships women’s final and enjoy watching Lexy totally crush it.

Thanks so much for being here — and if you’re looking for more great conversations, check out our other Sandyboy Productions shows like Finish Lines & Milestones, The Trail Network Podcast, Miles With Moms, and The Illuminate Podcast at sandyboyproductions.com.

Topics we discussed:

• Winning the 2025 USATF Steeplechase Championship

• Race strategy and in-race communication with Coach Taylor

• Shifting dynamics of U.S. women’s steeplechase and new team members

• Mental preparation and confidence on the start line

• Post-race emotions, gratitude, and celebrating with family

• Staying healthy and training philosophies (low mileage, peaking, etc.)

• Faith, BYU culture, and the influence of Coach Diljeet Taylor

• Sponsorship journey (NIL to Nike) and the role of social media

• Life outside of running: hobbies, gut health, violin, cooking

• Family influences, including her mom’s athletic background and running for her sister with a disability

Book recommendations:

Greatness by David Cook

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TRE is North America’s premier conference and trade show for run and outdoor specialty retail. It’s a B2B event where retailers connect with brands, learn about new products, and have bigger conversations about the future of our industry. Christina has helped transform TRE into more than just a trade show – it’s become a community hub for meaningful conversations around business, culture, and shared values.

Christina is also an incredible runner herself, with a marathon PR of 2:56. We talked about the generational shifts happening in the running retail space, the challenges the industry is facing, and how TRE continues to evolve to meet the moment.

I left this conversation so inspired by Christina’s passion for this community and her vision for the future of our sport. I think you’ll really enjoy hearing her perspective and getting to know her better!

Topics Covered: 

We recorded this episode right before Allie raced the Stumptown Twilight meet, where she ran a 9:35 in the steeple—her fastest season opener yet—and took the win. She was tuning up for the U.S. Championships, and we talked about her mindset and training going into that race. We also looked back on her time at Boise State (three-time NCAA steeplechase champ!), her transition into the pro scene with the Brooks Beasts, and now her current chapter with Oiselle.

I loved diving into how she balances training with her YouTube channel and how she uses her platform to speak openly about her experience with an eating disorder, aiming to help others coming up behind her. We also got into some fun stuff—like what shoes she’s into right now and her recent leap into longer distances, including her debut half marathon in 71:10.

Allie is hilarious, honest, and such a strong voice in the running space. I’m always inspired by how she’s evolving and staying true to herself in the process. I know you’re going to love this one.

Topics Covered:

• Returning to the Podcast & Career Update

• Balancing Trail, Track, and Road Racing

• Steeplechase Training and Technique

• Running Without an Agent

• Content Creation and YouTube Growth

• Money in Running and Transparency

• Mental Health and Eating Disorder Recovery

• Life Updates: New Home in Boulder

• Footwear and Brand Partnerships

• Future Goals and Perspective on Racing

Books Recommended:

• The Powerless trilogy

Shows Recommended:

• Love Island USA

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In this episode, Colleen shares all about her newest venture: launching Meridia, a pro training group built by athletes, for athletes. We dive into why she started the team, what makes it unique, and how she’s approaching this next chapter in her running career. I love Colleen’s entrepreneurial spirit—she’s always been someone who thinks creatively about her path as an athlete, and you’ll hear that shine through in this conversation.

We also talk about the Meridia Mile, a virtual one-mile race happening on August 9th. This is such a cool way to support Meridia as they get their team off the ground. Entry is just $20, and you can use the code “another” for $5 off your registration. Plus, they’re doing fun giveaways each week when you sign up! You can get all the details at colleenquigley.org.

Colleen opens up about how this team structure allows athletes to choose their own coaches and sponsors, what it’s been like navigating injuries, and why she’s feeling really excited about what’s ahead. She also talks about her continued partnership with Lululemon, her work with Runna, and how much she’s grown since first stepping on the professional running scene with Bowerman Track Club.

This was such a fun catch-up, and I hope you enjoy hearing from Colleen as much as I loved chatting with her. If you do, it means so much if you leave a quick rating and review!

What we talked about:

• Why Colleen launched Meridia and the journey to building an athlete-led pro team
• The meaning behind the name “Meridia” and how the team’s identity came together
• Breaking the mold: how Meridia allows athletes to choose their own coaches and sponsors
• The vision for Meridia as both a team and a media company amplifying athlete stories
• Building community through events like the Meridia Mile and their weekly newsletter
• How Colleen balances entrepreneurship with her own professional running career
• Her evolving relationship with running, navigating injuries, and finding joy again
• A refreshingly honest discussion about nervous system regulation, mental health, and the physical toll of sport
• Why Colleen stepped away from the steeplechase this season to focus on the 1500 and 3k
• What’s next for Colleen with racing, coaching connections, and future Meridia growth
• Favorite podcasts and books about the business of sport, healing, and mind-body connection

Links:
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Follow Colleen on Instagram: @steeple_squigs

Books and Media Recommended:

Second Nature Podcast

The Mind Body Prescription

The Cure for Chronic Pain Podcast

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This past spring, she took second place at the USATF 5K Championships, finishing right between Josette Norris and Courtney Frerichs. Pretty incredible. She’s now coached by Pete Julian, lives and trains in Boulder, and is heading into the Sunset Tour in LA this weekend to chase that world standard in the 5K.

In this conversation, we talk about what she’s learned transitioning to the pro world, how she’s built back confidence, what motivates her now, and how she’s grown both as an athlete and a teammate. She also opens up about the hard stuff—leaving Indiana on bad terms, navigating team dynamics, and what it’s taken to move forward.

I loved this conversation with Bailey. She’s sharp, driven, honest, and someone I think we’ll be hearing a lot more from in the years to come.

Make sure to go follow Bailey on Instagram at @baileyh_.

Topics we discussed:

• Transition from IU to CU

• Owning past mistakes and personal growth

• Choosing to transfer to CU

• Signing with Nike and staying in Boulder

• Adjusting to the pro running world

• Imposter syndrome and mental challenges

• Breakthrough race at USATF 5K Champs

• First 10K experiences (track + Mini 10K)

• Final message on character and kindness

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Today I’m talking with Rachel Entrekin, the 2025 Cocodona 250 champion AND course record holder! She ran 63 hours, 58 minutes, and 15 seconds this year to not only win but also break 70 hours for the first time in the race’s history. She’s now a two-time winner, and the first person to win Cocodona back-to-back.

In this conversation, we get into Rachel’s story — her love for the trails, her life in Colorado, her work as a physical therapist, and how she’s built the strength (mentally and physically!) to take on 250+ mile races. I was blown away by her passion and the way she approaches this sport with such joy and reverence. She’s been called the Queen of Cocodona — and honestly, that title fits perfectly.

Another amazing stat? She finished fourth overall this year — up from 11th overall in 2024 — taking 10 hours off her time from last year. Just incredible.

This episode is a reminder of how cool running is. From 100-meter sprinters to ultrarunners covering hundreds of miles, there’s room for everyone in this sport. If you love the ultra scene, definitely check out The Trail Network Podcast, hosted by some of the most inspiring women in the sport: Rachel Drake, Hillary Yang, Leah Yingling, and Katie Asmuth. Their latest episode is packed with advice for new trail runners — go give it a listen.

What we talked about:

04:00: Trail Work & Giving Back to the Trails
10:10: Meeting Kevin at Western States & Moving to Colorado
18:50: Leaving Los Angeles & Prioritizing Trail Access
22:30: Mindset in 200+ Mile Races
26:00: Redemption at Cocodona 2025
30:30: Winning Without Chasing the Win
36:00: Sleep Strategy in a 250-Mile Race
42:10: “Barely Manageable” Pacing Philosophy
49:00: Balancing Physical Therapy with Training
58:30: Healing from an Eating Disorder & Fueling for Strength

Show notes:

Book recommendations:

• A Man Called Ove

• Something Missing

• The Humans

• The Midnight Library

• Memoirs of an Imaginary Friend

• Beartown

• Anxious People

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Dominic started his podcast back in July 2020 — and get this — he was only 15 years old at the time. I actually looked back through some old emails and found pitches from him from over five years ago asking me to be a guest on his show! He just turned 20, and his growth and hustle are next-level. In 2023, he became the youngest person ever to land on Spotify’s podcast charts.

Dominic is incredibly well-researched, thoughtful, and passionate about our sport. He’s had everyone from elite athletes to a member of Congress on the show. He recently interviewed Aleksander Piotr Lingauer, who ran 61 marathons in 61 days with just a backpack — the kind of story that makes you stop and reflect on what it means to chase something real. That’s what The Running Effect is all about: inspiring people to turn their what ifs into reality.

Dominic is also putting in the work behind the scenes — he’s been on-site at events like the the Brooks PR Invitational and he’s consistently putting out high-quality content (we’re talking two Instagram posts a day!). I’m excited to see where this journey takes him.

Let me know if you’re enjoying this series! You can email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com, leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts (and shout out your favorite guest!), or share the episode on social. You can tag me @lindseyhein626 and Dominic @therunningeffect.

Thanks for listening — I hope you enjoy this conversation with Dominic Schlueter!

Show notes:

When Breath Becomes Air

The Boys in the Boat

The Five Types of Wealth

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Erika has been on the show twice before—once in 2021 when she was chasing the Olympic standard with the BAA, and again in 2023 when she was building toward her Boston Marathon debut. In that race, she made history, running the fastest marathon ever by an American-born Black woman.

In this episode, we talk about the evolution of her marathon career—how she shaved over 10 minutes off her Boston time in less than a year—and what that Houston race actually felt like behind the scenes. Erika shares how she’s approached training and racing under her coach Kurt Benninger (Molly Huddle’s husband!), her experience making her first World Champs team, and what it means to her to be a mentor and voice for representation in distance running.

We also dive into what it’s been like joining the Relay crew and what you can expect from her as a co-host moving forward. I’m so pumped to have her on board and to share this deeper look at her story.

Thanks for listening and supporting the show! If you’re not already following Relay, be sure to check it out—new episodes drop every Tuesday.

Enjoy my conversation with Erika Kemp!

What we talked about:

5:30- Her partnership with Brooks and being coached by Kurt (Molly Huddle’s husband)

16:40- Confidence gained from her PR in Houston

29:30- Her experience at the Olympic Marathon Trials

36:00- Making her first World Championship team

47:00- Joining the Relay Podcast and thoughts on current running news

58:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:
The Circle

The Ever

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We dive into how Believe in the Run got started, how they approach reviewing shoes and gear, what it’s like to create content in the running space, and how they’ve built a brand that so many runners love and trust. It’s a casual, fun conversation — I hope it feels like you’re just listening in on a group of friends chatting about all the things we love about running.

What we talked about:

1:45- Catching up with Believe in the Run team

5:35- Diving more in the trail scene this year

11:35- Their branding and the focus on that

16:00- Favorite part of the work at Believe on The Run

41:00- Favorite shoes

43:00- Guests outside of the running community they have on the podcast

Show notes:

The Heart in Winter

The Creative Act: A Way of Being

Life’s Too Short

In a Men’s World

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Allie is an 800m specialist and became an Olympian last year when she placed second at the U.S. Olympic Trials and competed in Paris in the 800. She’s also represented Team USA at the World Indoor Championships and is the 2024 U.S. Indoor Champion in the 800. Her resume is seriously impressive, but beyond all that, she’s just a joy to talk to.

In this episode, we talk about her journey to the Olympics, the transition she made from soccer to track, her time training with the Atlanta Track Club under Amy and Andrew Begley, and the coaching change she’s making now — which she shares here! Allie has recently moved back to New Jersey and is taking a new approach with her training, and I can’t wait to see what this next chapter brings.

She also shares a bit about racing the 1500 more in the future, her mindset in training and competition, and how she’s grown through the ups and downs of elite running.

I absolutely loved this conversation and think you will too.

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What we talked about:

4:55- Catching up with Allie

6:40- Her history with playing soccer

12:10- The decision to run pro with the Atlanta Track Club

15:10- Being an 800m runner

21:30- Making her first Olympic team

36:30- What Allie’s training looks like

38:00- Allie’s new coach!!

40:00- The trajectory of her season

55:45- Working with a mental performance coach

1:05:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo

Love on the Spectrum

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You may know Tommie from the Relay podcast, which I also co-host, and I’ve really enjoyed getting to know him over the years. He brings such a creative energy to everything he does, and this whole PR Project is a great example of that. Two years ago, Tommie pitched the idea of bringing the PR Project to The Running Event (TRE) to do live interviews with athletes and brands — and it’s been growing ever since.

Tommie and Gary are both sub-3 marathoners, and Aaron is chasing down that same goal, so you know there’s plenty of passion and drive here. But beyond the stats, this is just a super casual conversation among friends — a look behind the scenes at what they’re building, how they approach content creation in the running space, and what it’s like to grow something from the ground up.

Right now, they’re gearing up for their Summer of Speed series, which is sponsored by Puma, and I’m so excited to see what they do with it.

Hope you enjoy listening in on this one! If you liked the episode, let the guys know (social media linked below). And if you’re enjoying the Behind the Mic series, consider supporting the show on Patreon — even $1 or $3 a month makes a big difference.

Thanks for being here!

Follow the PR Project:

• @TommieRunz

• @AaronXWorldwide

• @GaryIsARunner

What we talked about:

5:00- The history of the PR Project

12:00- What we need to know about Detroit

25:00- Sports chat

37:15- Running hot takes

46:30- Handling hate on the internet

49:30- Goals for the PR Project

55:00- Their careers outside of running

1:06:30- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

The Power of the Subconscious Mind

26 Marathons

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We talk about what that win in Indy meant to him, how he’s navigating his professional career, and what it’s like training with a team like NAZ Elite. Olin also shares stories from his time at Wisconsin, where he followed in the footsteps of his dad—also a national champion. And yes, every sibling in his family ran in college, so we had to talk about that running gene, too.

We get into the mental side of racing, his experience at World Indoors where he finished 5th in the 3K, and what he’s working toward next.

What we talked about:

5:15- Winning his first national title on the roads

10:00- His family’s running legacy

16:00- His decision to join NAZ elite

20:20- How his parents cultivated a success mindset

32:00- Olin’s season so far

36:45- Championship races and strategy

44:20- Being coached by Jack Mullaney

49:00- End of podcast questions

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Jason has helped so many runners of all levels chase down big goals, and one of his biggest focuses is helping people become well-rounded, injury-resistant athletes through strength training and smart programming. He also offers mental training courses and resources that go beyond the physical side of the sport.

We talk about his journey into podcasting and coaching, what it’s like to be a content creator in the running world, and the values that guide the way he shows up for his audience. He shares about his background as a 2:39 marathoner, some of his favorite interviews, and yes—we get into his “Jesus Take the Wheel 5K” strategy, which had me cracking up.

Before we recorded this episode, I actually listened to his most recent episode on The Strength Running Podcast all about creatine, featuring Brady Holmer. If you’ve been curious about creatine—what it does, how to take it, whether it’s worth the hype—I can’t recommend that episode enough. It’s super informative but also really easy to understand, and I even found myself rewinding to catch all the nuggets. Highly recommend checking that one out after this episode!

Jason is smart, thoughtful, and has a really genuine presence in this space. I loved this conversation and I think you will too.

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Thanks so much for being here! Enjoy my conversation with Jason Fitzgerald.

What we talked about:

7:45- Jason’s history in running and podcasting

18:05- Injury prevention and rehab

32:00- Translatting marathon training to 5k fitness

40:20- The mental side of training

58:00- How his own running training has changed over the years

1:03:30- What Jason still wants to learn in the sport

1:14:20- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Book recommendations:

Range by David Epstein

The Wolf of Walstreet

Strong Men

Sapien

The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists

Why We Run

The 4-Hour Workweek

Tools of Titans

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Dakotah placed 12th at the Olympics in Paris in the marathon and continues to compete with as much enthusiasm as she did all those years ago when she bet on herself and gave being a professional runner a shot. Her journey to becoming an Olympian is a bit unconventional. She ran at a DII school, wasn’t recruited to run pro but applied for a grant and started training hard.

She placed 36th at the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials – making quite the jump in 2024 to 3rd. Over the years she’s won the Grandma’s Marathon twice and has a marathon PR of 2:24:40 which she ran at the 2023 Chicago Marathon. So much to celebrate and so much to look forward to!

Thank you to the Bayshore Marathon and The Traverse City Track Club for having both Dakotah and I out for this event! It was so special to be a part of it for the second year! 

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Allie ran for Furman University, where she finished second at the 2018 NCAA Outdoor Championships in the 5K. Right out of college, she signed with Brooks, and she just re-signed with them, continuing her training under coach Danny Mackey in Seattle. She recently placed fifth—just milliseconds out of fourth—at the USATF 5K Road Championships in Indianapolis, and we recorded this episode shortly after that race. Our conversation ended up being even more reflective and grounded than what we originally planned to chat about in person.

We talk about how working with a sports psychologist has shifted her mindset in racing and how that’s changed her career trajectory. Allie opens up about her love for basketball, growing up in Georgia, and the unique way she approaches racing with both intensity and joy. She also shares a bit about her goals for this season and what it means to her to represent Brooks and compete at a high level.

This was one of the easiest and most natural interviews I’ve ever recorded, and I can’t wait for you to hear it!

Thanks for being here, and if you enjoy the episode, please consider leaving a rating and review or joining us over on Patreon to support the show. Happy listening!

What we talked about:

5:00- Her race in Indianapolis at the US 5k Champs

14:00- Her mom’s diagnosis with cancer

21:10- What’s next on Allie’s racing calendar

22:05- Growing up and finding her passion and drive in sports

27:45- Running for Furman University

35:00- The decision to sign with Brooks Beasts

50:00- Focus on nutrition

57:40- Looking ahead to USAs

1:05:00- Working with a sports psychologist

1:11:00- Celebrating the small wins

1:13:00- Hobbies outside of running

1:18:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

The Book of Thorns

Heart of a Husky

Running For My Life

Think Like a Champion

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Matt and I have really grown up in the podcasting space together, and he’s truly one of my biggest cheerleaders. But honestly? He’s that person for so many in this space—he supports and uplifts others in such a genuine way, and it’s just who he is.

He’s also the brains behind Relay, the podcast I co-host with an incredible group of people in the running world. Matt dreamed it up, pitched us all on the idea, and brought it to life with so much heart. I’m proud to be part of it and grateful that he brought me along for the ride.

Outside of podcasting, Matt is a dad of two, a former college fundraiser, and a true sports enthusiast—not just running, but across the board. I always love our conversations about other sports, too.

In this episode, we get into all of that—his path into podcasting, building a community, what drives him, and what he’s dreaming up next.

I hope you enjoy it—and if you do, it would mean a lot if you left a quick rating and review. And of course, be sure to check out Matt’s show, The Rambling Runner, and follow him over on Instagram at @rambling_runner.

All right, let’s get to it. Please enjoy my conversation with Matt Chittim.

What we talked about:

4:50- Catching us up on his podcasting as of late

14:10- Creating content and new ideas

22:30- Relay Podcast

26:00- The Rambling Runner

28:00- Swinging big and launching new projects

39:00- Balancing our own athletic endeavors amidst creating content in a running space

47:20- Reflecting on Matt’s career in sports outside of podcasting

53:00- Matt’s life outside of his career

58:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

The Creative Act

How to Win Friends and Influence People

Undeniable by Cameron Haynes

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A couple weeks later, we sat down to chat all about that experience and what it’s like to race a marathon post-retirement. Serena is a 2:26 marathoner who’s represented Team USA multiple times, including at the 2017 World Championships in London. She’s also a two-time cancer survivor. In 2010, she was diagnosed with a rare sarcoma in her leg. She came back from that diagnosis to run some of her fastest races ever—and then faced a recurrence of the same cancer in 2017. Through it all, she’s continued to show up with strength, optimism, and perspective.

In this episode, we talk about her incredible career, her mindset through some of the hardest moments, and what life looks like now as a mom of three. Serena isn’t on social media, so if you’ve followed her running journey in the past, I think you’ll really love this update. She has such a beautiful spirit and I walked away from this conversation feeling really inspired.

Big thanks to the Big Sur International Marathon for connecting us—if you haven’t checked out that race yet, add it to your list!

What we talked about:

4:00- Catching up with Serena and her recent race at the Big Sur Marathon

7:00- Reflecting on Boston 2018

9:10- Her win at Big Sur

17:00- Her family

23:20- Her cancer diagnosis and battle with cancer

38:00- Her faith throughout this process

39:00- Deciding to grow her family after her cancer treatments and after her marathon career

43:10- Training leading into Big Sur

54:10- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

The Rose Code

Hotel Flamingo

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This week we welcome Sarah Bowen Shea of Another Mother Runner to the podcast. Sarah is truly an OG in this space and has been creating community for 15 years with Mother Runners around the World. Her and co-founder Dimity McDowell truly paved the way as far as podcasting, community and business goes in this niche space.

The Another Mother Runner crew have training plans, retreats and so much more to offer and you can find more info on what they are up to at AnotherMotherRunner.com.

Today in this conversation Sarah and I talk about our own running and podcasting but we spend the majority of our time talking about both of our loves for pickleball. I’m a little bit newer to the game than Sarah but we both find so much joy out of this new to us sport so we wanted to share that with all of you.

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She won the USATF 5K Championships on the road this past weekend in Indianapolis and breaks down the race for us today! She had a great little indoor season running 14:44 for the 5K and also running a 3,000 PR.

Josette runs with On Athletics and works with Coaches Dathan Ritzenhein and Kelsey Quinn. She’s got her eyes on making the team in Tokoyo this summer on the track!

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Joining me today are three awesome guests with deep connections to Bayshore. First up is Zach Ripley, a multiple-time Bayshore winner and 2:16 marathoner who ran at the 2024 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. He’s part of the A to Z Running duo (alongside his wife, Andi), and he brings a wealth of knowledge about this course and how to approach it.

Next, you’ll hear from Sabrina Blank, known as @thatpsychedrunner on Instagram. She’s a PhD student, host of The Psyched Runner podcast, and a multi-time Bayshore finisher in both the full and half marathons. Sabrina will also be helping emcee our live podcast event on Friday, May 23rd, which I’ll be hosting with Olympian Dakotah Popehn (Lindwurm)—so it was great to chat with her about the race and all things Traverse City.

Finally, I talk with Joe Dimambro, Executive Director of Playmakers Sports, the event team behind the Bayshore Marathon. Joe walks us through everything you need to know logistically—whether it’s your first time at Bayshore or you’re coming back for more.

This course is absolutely stunning—right along Lake Michigan, tree-lined, and peaceful. If you’re already registered, make sure to grab your ticket to our live podcast recording on Friday, May 23rd at 3 p.m. at the historic Traverse City Opera House. It’s going to be a special afternoon with Dakotah and me, and we’re raffling off VIP happy hour access to a small group of attendees. You can find all the details and get your ticket at bayshoremarathon.org.

Thanks so much for tuning in—and stay tuned next week as we pick back up with the Behind the Mic series!

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Emily made her half marathon debut in Houston, running 68:48 and placing seventh, even after taking a hard fall at the start of the race. She followed that up with a fifth-place finish at the U.S. Half Marathon Championships and broke 15 minutes in the indoor 5K—something that had been a longtime goal of hers. Last fall, she placed second at the Road 5K Championships and won the Sound Running Cross Country Championships.

Emily’s collegiate career included time at Boise State, the University of Colorado, and the University of Utah. She’s about to start nursing school while continuing to train and race at a high level, and she thrives with a full plate. In this episode, we talk about her move up to the half marathon, when she might make the jump to the full marathon, and what it’s been like adjusting to life as a professional athlete. We also dive into her support system growing up, including the role her parents played in her journey to becoming a pro.

I loved getting to know Emily—her energy, determination, and humility really shine through in this conversation. She’ll be racing at the USATF 5K Championships in Indianapolis, and I can’t wait to see how she does.

What we talked about:

4:00- Starting nursing school

6:55- Emily’s half marathon debut

12:30- The decision to focus on one event going forward

19:20- Her mental health over the past few years

26:20- Her college career and professional career so far

44:00- Her nursing career goals

47:00- End of podcast questions

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Silo on Apple TV

Severence

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The show is hosted by four amazing women: Whitney Heins, Shanna Burchett, Tricia Denardis, and Olivia Garcia—all incredibly fast, inspiring, and relatable moms who are living the running-mom life right alongside us. Whitney is the founder of The Mother Runners, a VDOT-certified coach, and a 2:54 marathoner who ran both her marathon and 1:20 half PRs in her 40s. Shanna, known as @motherhood_running on Instagram with over 120,000 followers, is a mom of six and ran a 2:44 marathon after returning to the sport in 2022 following an 11-year break. Tricia is a mom of three and a pelvic floor physical therapist who now focuses on ultras. And Olivia, a mom of two and former paramedic, has chopped over an hour off her marathon time—running a 2:57.

In this episode, I introduce each host and give you a behind-the-scenes look at how Miles with Moms came to life. You can find links to all four hosts’ Instagram handles and learn more about the podcast at sandyboyproductions.com under the Miles with Moms tab.

Let’s give these amazing women a warm welcome to the network, and I hope you’ll check out their show. I’m so excited to have them on board—and can’t wait for what’s ahead!

Show notes:

Miles With Moms Podcast

Whitney on Instagram – @themotherrunners

@mileswithmomspodcast on Instagram

Shanna on Instagram – @motherhood_running

Tricia on Instagram – @burpeesandburpcloths

Olivia on Instagram – @watch_oliviarun

Book recommendations:

Demon Copperhead

The Let Them Theory

The Comfort Crisis

The Lost Start of Running

The Pivot Year

A Court of Thorns and Roses

Verity

Music recommendations:

Godzilla

Into the Unknown

Vivaldi – Classical Music

Toy Soldiers

6 Foot 7 Foot

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Since then, Charlotte has continued to make huge strides in her career, lowering her marathon personal best to 2:22 at the Berlin Marathon. She earned a spot on the British team for the Paris Olympics—a dream years in the making. Unfortunately, just a couple of weeks before the Games, she rolled her ankle and had to make the heartbreaking decision to withdraw. I still remember seeing her announcement and feeling so sad for her.

In this conversation, Charlotte shares how she bounced back from that disappointment, what her recovery looked like (including getting a new puppy to lift her spirits!), and the new perspective she’s carrying into this next season. She’s running the London Marathon this weekend—her second race since returning from injury—and I can’t wait to see how she does. Charlotte has such a grounded, positive mindset about running and life, and it was so great to catch up with her.

Thanks so much for tuning in—please enjoy my conversation with Charlotte Purdue!

What we talked about: 

4:35- Catching up with Charlotte

11:10- Charlotte’s heartbreak with the Olympics

19:50- Her comeback after injury and getting back to racing

23:25- Goals for the London Marathon

27:30- Being sponsored by Puma

43:00- Last thoughts ahead of the London Marathon

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Fourth Wing

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If you’re already a listener of his show, you know it’s all about exploring the why—what keeps athletes going and how they keep growing, both in sport and in life. Jonathan’s had on some of the best in the sport, and his podcast dives into the connection between running, mindset, and life beyond the finish line.

Jonathan and I have been friends in this industry for a long time. He’s been consistently encouraging, helpful, and supportive—and I have to give him a big shoutout for helping make this series happen. He even hustled to bring Boulderthon on board as a sponsor, and is personally sponsoring a few episodes through For the Long Run as well. So if you’re loving this series, you can thank him for that!

In this episode, we talk about his own running journey, including what it meant to him to break three hours in the marathon—and even what it didn’t mean. He actually helped me work through some of my own feelings around that goal, and I think his perspective will resonate with a lot of listeners. We also get into the podcasting business, lessons from years in this space, and how he’s approached his work with InsideTracker and other ventures.

Jonathan lives in Boulder, Colorado, and will be at Boulderthon this fall—along with some of your other favorite names in the running and podcast world. I hope you enjoy this conversation and come away with a little inspiration and insight into what keeps runners, and creators, going strong.

All right, friends—please enjoy my conversation with Jonathan Levitt.

What we talked about:

6:30- Catching up with Jon

7:30- His goals to have adventures with running throughout the summer

9:25- Marathoning history

24:25- His career in the podcasting space and beyond

37:00-  Jon’s experience with ADHD and finding it to be a superpower

53:00- Jon’s podcast, For the Long Run

59:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

North: Finding My Way While Running the Appalachian Trail

Parks and Rec

A few standout episodes I’d recommend: episode 50 with Hillary Yang and Sarah Attar—who competed for Saudi Arabia in both the 2012 and 2016 Olympics and is now a celebrated photographer—and episode 46, where Leah talks with Alexis Crellin about raising resilient kids while chasing big goals. That one really hit home for me.

Now, let’s talk about Katie. She’s the mother of two, a nurse practitioner, and a professional trail runner for HOKA. Katie has three top-10 finishes at Western States—including a 5th-place finish in 2021, 9th in 2022 (which she shares more about in this episode), and 4th in 2023. She recently ran a self-supported FKT through Joshua Tree and is getting back to racing after overcoming some major injuries over the past couple of years. She spent several years with Saucony and is now part of the HOKA team, which she’s really excited about.

Katie lives and trains in Mammoth Lakes, California, and if you’re not already following her, you should be—she’s @kt_asmuth on Instagram. This episode is short and sweet, but I left the conversation so inspired by her energy, grit, and openness. I hope it does the same for you—and I hope you’ll check out her podcast while you’re at it!

All right, friends—enjoy my conversation with Katie Asmuth.

What we talked about:

7:00- Living in Mammoth

11:40- Her running journey

18:30- The Trail Network Podcast

26:15- Balancing busy seasons in life

40:00- Her FKT at Joshua Tree

47:45- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Majestica

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They launched the show way back in 2010 (yes, seriously—2010), and they’ve grown a massive community and business through it. Angie and Trevor have traveled all over the world running races, hosting events, and supporting athletes through their coaching programs. If you’re looking for coaching, you can check out all they offer at marathontrainingacademy.com.

Angie has run 72 marathons—including six ultras—with a PR of 3:19. She’s run a marathon in every single U.S. state and has qualified for Boston in all 50 states. She’s a USATF Level 1 and RRCA Level 2 certified coach. Trevor, who once hated running, now has 24 marathons, a 50K, and 27 half marathons under his belt. He’s run races in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, France, Belgium, Japan, the UK, Slovakia—you name it. He’s passionate about using running as a way to explore the world and connect with people, and that comes through in everything he does behind the mic.

Their podcast recently celebrated its 15-year anniversary (check out their April 2nd episode for that milestone!), which is absolutely incredible. Their longevity and consistency are a testament to their love for this sport and the community they’ve built.

In this episode, we talk about their journey with the podcast and running, parenting three boys, and I couldn’t resist asking them for some tips on raising boys—since they’re a few steps ahead of me. I really appreciated their honest insights and the warmth they brought to this conversation.

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All right friends, please enjoy my conversation with Angie and Trevor Spencer.

What we talked about:

4:00- Reflecting on the history of running podcasts

11:30- Their progression in the space

16:30- A look behind the scenes producing a podcast

29:00- Their marathon careers

43:45- Their favorite marathons that they raced

54:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

The Let Them Theory

Building a Story Brand

Blue Like Jazz

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She’s a former 5,000m standout, an All-American at Stanford, and a high school star coached by Dr. Jeff Messer—who, by the way, was on this podcast as part of our coaching series last year (check that one out if you haven’t – episode 578!). Jess took a break from professional running during COVID but was previously training with the Brooks Beasts. She’s now back, stronger than ever, and her fourth-place finish at the Trials came with a four-minute PR—running 2:25:46.

Since then, she’s gone on to place fourth in both the 10,000m at the Olympic Trials on the track and the USA Half Marathon Championships. Fourth place again and again—but what stands out about Jess is the grace she shows after each race. In this episode, she shares how she’s taken the pressure off chasing podiums and learned to embrace racing for more than just the result.

Jess ran her first major last fall in New York, where she placed eighth in 2:27:19. Now she’s headed to Boston for her second major, carrying lessons learned and a fresh mindset. She also won the USA 10K title last year at the Great Cow Harbor 10K and has been back on the track—something she didn’t think she’d return to.

In addition to running professionally for Brooks, Jess works full-time with the Love Up and Love Pup Foundations. The Love Up Foundation supports children in foster care and spreads love and kindness in the community. Her energy is incredible, and I just love celebrating all that she’s doing in and beyond the sport. Can’t wait to see what she does in Boston!

What we talked about:

5:00- How training for Boston has looked

16:45- Finding peace in the results

30:45- Breaking 31 in the 10k alongside Emily Infeld

37:00- What it has looked like in her return to professional running

54:50- Running for Brooks

58:00- Thoughts on Grand Slam

Show notes:

Episode 578 with Dr. Jeff Messer (Jess’ high school coach!!)

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Before launching her podcast, Ali built a huge following through her blog, writing about running, Crohn’s disease, and life in New York City. That loyal audience followed her to the podcast, where she’s built a truly massive show and an incredibly supportive community. Beyond the podcast, Ali is a race announcer, live podcast host, and has done broadcasting work with major events. She works closely with the New York Road Runners (NYRR) and the Boston Athletic Association (BAA).

A few years ago, Ali was diagnosed with breast cancer and shared her journey so openly with her community. She continued to work through it all, and the love and support she received from her friends and listeners really lifted her up. We talk about that journey in this episode, along with her career, motherhood, and what it’s like to be on the other side of the mic for once.

Ali is also the announcer for the Boulderthon this fall—one of the fastest growing races in America, ranked a top 10 fall marathon by Runner’s World and USA Today. Think big city energy meets small-town charm, with a gorgeous Pearl Street finish. If you’re planning to run, don’t wait—spots are filling fast! The race is September 28th, and you can save $20 on the half marathon or marathon with the code HEIN20 at boulderthon.org.

If you enjoy this series or anything we’re doing on I’ll Have Another, please consider leaving a quick rating and review. It makes a huge difference. And remember, you can support the show at patreon.com/lindseyhein to get all episodes totally ad free and a day early for just $3/month.

All right, friends—please enjoy my conversation with Ali Feller.

What we talked about:

5:00- Turning 40

12:50- Staying relevant in the running podcast scene as the landscape changes

22:10- Ali’s breast cancer diagnosis

37:00- Her support from her friends over the past 2 years

43:00- What Ali is looking forward to

51:00- Dealing with hate on the internet

56:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Running Point on Netflix

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He also competed in the Tokyo Olympics, where he placed ninth in the 5,000m and fifth in the 10,000m. Since then, he’s continued to level up. Just this year, he ran three indoor races back-to-back-to-back: the 1500m, the 3000m, and the 5000m. In the process, he broke two WORLD RECORDS—in the 3000m and the 5000m—two weeks in a row.

Grant runs for Nike and is now gearing up for the Grand Slam series. You’ll catch him in Kingston this weekend, followed by the Miami Slam and the Philadelphia Slam, all leading into USA’s and hopefully the World Championships later this season.

It was a blast to get to know Grant—not just as an elite runner, but as someone who grew up in a super athletic family. He ran for Stanford and has two siblings who also compete at a high level, though in soccer. I’ve wanted to have him on the show for a long time, and if you heard my interview with Kara Goucher and Des Linden earlier this year, you might remember me saying, “I really want to interview Grant Fisher.” Well, here we are!

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What we talked about:

4:20- Catching up on Grant’s training

5:50- Breaking World Records this indoor season

13:00- Grand Slam Track

36:25- His athletic family

47:00- Focusng on the long term in training starting in high school

53:50- Racing Cole Hocker

58:00- Double bronze medals at the Olympics

1:08:30- TraIning with Bowerman and deciding to leave the team

1:16:20- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Flowers for Algernon

Severence on Amazon Prime

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We’re kicking things off with my friend Tina Muir, host of the Running for Real podcast. If you’ve followed her over the last few years—really since around 2021—you’ve probably noticed the way she’s used her platform as a vehicle for social change, especially in advocating for the health of our environment. Tina has raised the bar for major races across the country, including the Bank of America Chicago Marathon, the TCS New York City Marathon, the TCS Toronto Waterfront Marathon, and the AJC Peachtree Road Race, helping these events improve their sustainability efforts. She serves on the board of directors for both Running USA and Earth Day 365.

Tina is also the co-author of Becoming a Sustainable Runner: A Guide to Running for Life, Community, and Planet, which she wrote with Zoë Rom. If you’re interested in using running as a force for good, I highly recommend checking it out.

She’s a former elite runner, a mom of two, and someone I’ve known since the early days of my own podcasting journey. When I first started, she was hosting the Run to the Top podcast. In 2017, she launched Running for Real, and we’ve kind of grown up in this industry together. It’s been so fun to watch her lean more and more into the things she cares deeply about. She’s still so connected—if not more than ever—to the running community, and she’s carved out a powerful space around sustainability and advocacy within that.

Tina always brings a call to action when she speaks—not because it’s rehearsed, but because that’s who she is. She leads with her heart and shares what matters to her. More than anything, I hope you enjoy this conversation and that it kicks off this series in the best possible way—with someone who cares just as much about running as you and I do.

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All right friends, please enjoy my conversation with Tina Muir.

What we talked about:

6:30- Tina’s journey in the podcast space

12:00- Finding her voice to speak about sustainability

20:00- Who is Tina Muir

26:00- Making change without making judgements

37:00- What running looks like in Tina’s life these days

43:45- What Tina has learned over the years in the podcast and running industry

48:00- The World Half Marathon Championships no longer being in San Diego and Tina’s role in that

55:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

What If We Get It Right? Visions of Climate Futures

Apple Cider Vinegar on Netflix

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Most recently, she competed at the inaugural Athlos track meet in the fall, where she won the 200 meters, beating none other than Olympic champion and meet co-founder, Gabby Thomas. Brittany also raced in both the 100 meters that day. Looking ahead, she’ll be a key athlete in the highly anticipated Grand Slam Track series, which kicks off in Jamaica, followed by stops in Miami and Philadelphia. I can’t wait to see her race at these exciting meets!

Brittany is coached by Boogie Johnson, and during this episode, we dive into her journey from her days at the University of Iowa to turning pro. She shares what it was like to run for Adidas for a while and how her transition to Nike has shaped her career. We also touch on some health challenges she has faced and overcome along the way.

It was such a joy interviewing Brittany—seriously, I didn’t want the conversation to end. I’m officially a fan for life! Watching her race is a thrill, and with World Championships coming up this year, as well as USAs, it’s going to be an exciting time to follow her journey. While we usually focus on marathons here, track season is upon us, and I’m thrilled to bring you these conversations with some of our incredible track stars. Make sure you’re tuning into Grand Slam Track to watch Brittany in action!

What we talked about:

7:00- Reflecting on her Olympic experience

24:25- Her coach and training setup

38:00- Brittany’s health complications

1:00:00- Emotions after winning her Olympic medal

1:02:45- Athlos and Grand Slam track

1:15:05- End of podcast questions

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Brittany on Instagram

Open by Andre Agassi

A Completely Different Game by Emma Hayes

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What makes this win even more remarkable is that it came as a surprise to many. Taylor has mentioned in several post-race interviews that her goal was to make the team, and winning the race wasn’t necessarily on her radar. But she made it happen. Along with Taylor, Emma Grace Hurley and Amanda Vestri—both of whom have also been guests on this show recently—secured spots on the team as well. This means we’ll be sending a very strong trio of athletes to the World Championships in the half marathon.

Taylor is part of Puma Elite in the Raleigh-Durham area, which is exciting for me personally since I also live in the region. She’s coached by Alistair and Amy Cragg. Interestingly, Taylor debuted in the half marathon at the Houston half, and we get to talk about that experience, as well as her decision to race in the Half Marathon Championships. While Taylor loves the track, she’s currently focused on the 10,000 meters and gearing up for some races on the track.

Taylor ran for Oklahoma State University, where she was an NCAA Indoor Champion, the 2023 Big 12 Champion in the 5,000 meters, and runner-up in the 2021 NCAA Cross Country Championships. She credits her college coach, Dave Smith, for playing a significant role in shaping her career. Last summer, she finished eighth in the 5,000 meters at the US Olympic Trials, and we all know that Taylor’s path will eventually lead to the marathon. But for now, she’s focused on maximizing her potential on the track before taking that step.

It’s clear that an exciting career lies ahead for Taylor Roe, and I’m honored to have had her on the podcast this week.

What we talked about

7:00- Recapping her win at the US Half champs and pro career so far

14:45- How she feels racing on big stages

18:10- Recapping how the race played out at the US Half Champs

30:00- The decision to join Puma

37:20- Where the world champs will be

38:25- What’s next for Taylor

45:00- Having Amy and Alistair as her coaches

47:00- Her college experience

53:30- End of podcast questions

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Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

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If you’ve seen the Sprint documentary, you’ll recognize Kenny, as he was highlighted in season two, which was really cool to watch. Aside from his incredible accomplishments on the track, Kenny is also an advocate for adoption. He is from Wisconsin. We talked about his journey, which includes running at the community college level for Indian Hills Community College and then turning pro after a year.

One of the coolest parts of this episode was when I found out how excited my kids were about this interview—they were definitely more excited about talking to a sprinter than any long-distance runner I’ve had on. So, I made sure to sneak in a few questions from them, which was a fun twist!

We also dove into a bit of football talk because Kenny actually used to play the sport. Fun fact: his high school team won both the state championships in track and field and football during his senior year.

Kenny is also gearing up for the Grand Slam series as a racer—this is the new competition series that Michael Johnson’s team is putting on, and it’s going to be really exciting! The first event, the Kingston Slam, takes place from April 4th to 6th. After that, there will be one competition each month through June, including the Miami Slam, the Philadelphia Slam, and the LA Slam. Kenny is one of 96 athletes competing in this series, and I can’t wait to see how this brings even more exposure and excitement to the sport of track and field!

What we talked about:

7:30- Kenny’s training group

14:00- Reflections on some of his Olympic and World Champs teams

16:25- Kenny’s girlfriend and how they met

21:45- Grand Slam Track and growing the sport

27:00- His adoption story

34:50- Kenny’s time playing football

41:35- What his trajectory in the sport looks like to him

45:45- Technique in the sprints

52:00- Picking himself up after dissapointing results

55:40- Questions form the Hein boys

1:00:00- Competing for a junior college and then going pro

1:03:15- End of podcast questions

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Zen in the Art of Archery 

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Calli’s versatility as an athlete is truly something to admire. She made her marathon debut at the McKirdy Micro Marathon in 2023, where she won with an impressive 2:22:17. That victory set the stage for an incredible year ahead. Not long after, she was selected to represent Great Britain at the Paris Olympics, although she had to DNF that race due to a variety of challenges. We dive into all of that in the episode.

But Calli didn’t stop there. She came back strong, running a PR of 2:21:24 in Berlin, and then went on to win the California International Marathon (CIM) last year with a 2:24:28, including a thrilling sprint to the finish. She’s sponsored by Nike and coached by her husband, Nick, and she’s been crushing some truly fast times.

We recorded this before the Gate River Run, but Calli went on the win that last weekend. She’ll also be running the TEN 10k on the track and is preparing for her first Boston Marathon in April. It’s going to be an exciting time for her, and she’s just such a positive presence in the running world, always bringing great energy and showing up alongside all of these amazing women running incredible times.

Enjoy!

What we talked about:

4:30- Catching up on training 

10:30- Life outside of running

12:30- Callie and Nick’s wedding

20:10- Looking ahead at the Boston Marathon

24:40- Reflections on her marathon debut

29:45- Her fueling strategy

31:05- Her Olympic experience

38:30- Her season after the Olympics

56:00- Her recent 66:58 half marathon

59:00- Having Nick as her coach

1:00:04- Looking ahead at the future of her career

1:10:30- Her sponsorship with Nike

1:14:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Rental Tycoons

Mile to Go by Joan Benoit Samuelson

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Right now, Kellyn is also training for Boston, where she’ll be running this spring. She’s also got the New York City Half on her schedule. So, lots of great races ahead! Kellyn ran for Hoka NAZ Elite for a decade, and we’ve all watched her and that team grow and achieve incredible things over the years. It feels like I’ve kind of grown up alongside her in the industry.

But this past year, Hoka made the decision to drop Kellyn, along with Steph Bruce and Lauren Hagans, some of the team’s original members. We talk with Kellyn about how she’s processed that change over the last few months, what’s been going on in her world since, and what new shoes she’s trying out. We also dive into the topic of ageism, because as Kellyn puts it, nobody gets to decide when your career ends—only you get to decide that.

Last year was definitely a tough one for Kellyn. I think she called it a “hard year but a decent year”—she says it in the episode, but it was a year of recovery after some injuries. Despite that, she managed to place 15th at the US Olympic Marathon Trials, and then she went on to place sixth in the 10,000 meters at the US Trials. After that, she placed 10th in New York, running a 2:27:59. That was actually her worst finish ever at New York, but it’s still incredible. She’s always been in the top 10 there, and it was her fifth time racing the course.

I’m really excited for Kellyn and what’s ahead for her in 2025. She’s got big goals and is looking forward to trying new things this year. I’ll definitely be cheering hard for her. So, I hope you enjoy my conversation with Kellyn Taylor.

What we talked about:

3:00- Catching up with Kellyn

5:05- Running the half marathon championships this weekend

12:50- The cuts from HOKA and reflections on her past few years

18:00- NYC Marathon

22:00- Looking ahead to the Boston Marathon

34:00- What’s exciting Kellyn in life and in running

37:45- Her kids and family

44:00- What shoes she is trying out

46:20- What her future with sponsorships looks like

50:00- Favorite memories over her career so far

52:00- Her plans to race trails

54:00- End of podcast questions

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Annie’s been recovering from a hamstring injury after the Chicago Marathon this past fall, where she ran a solid 2:27:52. But now, she’s gearing up for her second Boston Marathon, and I can’t wait to see how she tackles that iconic course a second time around. We all know how much we learn from our first time running Boston, so it’ll be interesting to hear about what she’s doing differently this year.

Annie trains with the Minnesota Distance Elite team, alongside one of our favorites, Dakota Lindwurm, who’s also a great friend and training partner of Annie’s. Before her professional career, Annie ran for Iowa State, and we get into that a bit too. It was such a pleasure to sit down and chat with Annie, and I think you’ll enjoy getting to know her in this episode.

 What we talked about:

3:00- Gearing up for the Boston Marathon!

10:00- What her recovery looks like from injuries

21:45- Sub 3 project with Puma

23:40- What’s ahead for Annie

27:00- Her race tactics and workouts that she loves

30:00- Reflections on the Olympic Trials

34:00- Annie’s marathoning career

45:20- Training in Minnesota

49:00- Training plans for the winter

Show notes:

Books recommended

Game of Thrones Series

Open

Shows recommended:

The Boys

The Bear

White Lotus

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Recently, Amanda ran an impressive 67:35 at the Houston Half Marathon, marking her second-ever half. Her debut was in Orlando, where she won and ran 68:12. She was initially supposed to run the Valencia Half, known for its speed, but due to an injury that popped up just weeks before, she had to pull out. Instead, she raced in Orlando and then in Houston, which led to an amazing result. At Houston, she finished as the second American behind Weini Kelati, and fourth overall. With the Half Marathon Championships coming up in Atlanta this March, it’s going to be exciting to see Amanda, Weini, and many other fast women battling it out. The field will be stacked!

Amanda is sponsored by Brooks and runs with ZAP Fitness. She ran for Syracuse University after initially starting her college career at Iowa State. In our conversation, she reflects on her journey post-college and how it wasn’t quite what she expected. The path to finding the right team and sponsorship wasn’t smooth at first, but ZAP Fitness really gave her the opportunity she needed. And now she has a sponsorship with Brooks!

Speaking of her sponsorship with Brooks, she shares a wild story about signing her deal just an hour before the Olympic Trials, which is something I found so interesting. Amanda also had an amazing result at the Olympic Trials in the 10,000 meters, finishing fifth while coming off a COVID recovery, which is an incredible accomplishment given the competition.

She currently lives in Blowing Rock, North Carolina, where ZAP Fitness is based, and it’s always a pleasure to chat with her. I know when she runs her first marathon, it’s going to be something special.

I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did! Thanks for being here and enjoy my chat with Amanda Vestri.

What we talked about:

3:00- Reflections on her first year as a pro

9:45- Her recent half marathon success

25:10- How she is feeling walking away from Houston

29:50- Heading into the half marathon champs

35:00- Other upcoming races 

43:00- Her partnership with Brooks

51:00- Her college experience and turning pro

1:10:20- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Just the Nicest Couple

Elin Hilderbrand’s books

Mary Higgins Clark books

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In addition to her Paralympic achievements, Hannah is a three-time marathoner, having competed in the New York, Boston, and Chicago marathons. She also made history by winning the first-ever National Collegiate Wheelchair Championship in the 100 meters at Hayward Field. This was a major milestone, as it marked the first time there had been a National Collegiate Wheelchair Championship, alongside other events like basketball and tennis. Big progress is being made in the world of para-sport!

Hannah’s story is truly incredible. Born in China with spina bifida, she was adopted at the age of four from an orphanage. She discovered para-sport at the age of 12 through her local Shriners Hospital, and from there, the rest is history. She has been competing in para-sport for over 10 years now, making her world stage debut at just 16 years old. Currently, she is studying at the University of Illinois.

Hannah’s journey is remarkable, and I’m excited for you to hear her story. I hope this conversation not only inspires you but also opens your eyes to the world of para-sport.

Thanks for being here, and please enjoy my conversation with Hannah Dederick.

What we talked about:

Being a part of the first ever NCAA Wheelchair Track Championships

The importance of inclusion in college sports

Where she finds strength on hard training days

Her range in events from sprints to the marathon

Training with the University of Illinois

Her childhood

Looking ahead to her career trajectory

Increasing the visibility of parathletics

Goals for the future in sport and beyond

Show notes:

Move United

Challenge Athlete Foundation

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It’s been really cool to see how far both of us have come since then. As I’ve progressed in my podcasting journey, I’ve been able to cheer Emily on, watch her grow, and see all the incredible things she’s been doing in the sport. Not only has she achieved amazing things on the track, but she’s also become such a powerful advocate for mental health, which is something that resonates with so many people. Emily is one of the most real, authentic people I know in this sport, and I’m excited to share this conversation with you.

For a little background, Emily is a 2015 World Silver Medalist in the 10,000 meters, and a 2018 Silver Medalist at the US Cross Country Championships. She’s represented Team USA six times, and she competed in the 2016 Rio Olympics. She was with Nike for a long time (over 12 years!!), and just recently announced that she’ll be joining the Brooks Running team.

Emily is one of those people who is so easy to talk to—kind, genuine, and you feel that authenticity in every conversation with her. It really comes through in this interview. So, please enjoy my conversation with the wonderful Emily Infeld!

What we talked about:

3:15- Emily’s new partnership with Brooks

5:05- Emily’s goals going forward

12:55- Reflections on her Olympic Trials in 2024

19:50- Training with Team Boss

23:00- Max’s 5k streak

31:00- Emily’s new training setup

41:30- Reflections on her time with Nike and Bowerman

50:00- End of podcast chat!

Show notes:

Music:

Panic at the Disco

Fall Out Boys

The Killers

Book recommendations:

Throne of Glass

Crescent City

Other times Emily has been on the show:

Episode 147

Episode 251

Episode 409

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Weini was the 10,000 meter champion at the Olympic Trials last summer, and she went on to place eighth in the 10,000 at the Olympics. She’s an Under Armour athlete, coached and represented by Stephen Haas, and trains with the Dark Sky Distance group in Flagstaff.

In 2014, when she was just 17 years old, Weini traveled from her home country of Eritrea to Eugene, Oregon, to compete in the 3,000 meters at the World Junior Championships. After the race, she made the decision to stay in the U.S. She found a place to live in Leesburg, Virginia, and went on to finish high school, all while running for her high school team, getting a job, and learning English—all completely independently at just 17. She then went on to run for the University of New Mexico, where she won the 2019 NCAA Cross-Country Championship.

I have to say, this conversation is not long enough to cover Weini’s entire journey, but she’s been through a lot and has worked incredibly hard to get where she is today. I can’t wait for her to write a book one day because it’s going to be an amazing story. Anyway, I hope you’re as excited as I am to hear this conversation. Big thanks to Stephen Haas and his agency for making this happen. Enjoy the conversation!

What we talked about:

3:00- Breaking her own American Record in Houston

10:35- Looking ahead to the half marathon championships

14:00- Racing different distances and how fast of times are being run in women’s track right now

17:55- Reflections on this past summer winning the Olympic Trials and making the Olympics

22:10- Moving to the US

33:00- Training with Under Armour

42:00- Her family

49:00- Favorite distances to race

54:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Weini on Instagram

The Power of Positive Thinking

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In this episode, Dani shares her plans to experiment with different race distances. Last summer, she ran a personal best in the 1500 meters, running a time of 4:00 flat, and placed ninth at the U.S. Olympic Trials in both 2021 and 2024. Now at 28 years old, Dani is gearing up for the indoor season and looking forward to a new chapter in her career with this change in both her training environment and coaching team. With so much potential still ahead, Dani has a lot to be excited about.

For those interested in hearing Dani’s first appearance on the podcast, our first conversation (episode 256!!) with Dani was back in 2020 when she had just turned pro and was navigating the strange times of the COVID era. It was great to catch up and hear about all the exciting changes in her career since then.

Enjoy my conversation with Dani Jones!

What we talked about:

4:00- Leaving Team Boss and reflections on her four years there

8:20- What it looked like searching for a new team and coach

10:30- Moving to Michigan

18:10- What she has learned from each of her coaches

25:10- Reflecting on her decision to turn pro

27:10- Her 2024 year in review

46:00- What Dani is looking forward to going forward

49:00- New training partners

53:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Dani Jones when she was first on the podcast – Episode 256

Olive Kittredge

The Nightengale 

The Women

Everything I Know About Love

Paper Towns

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Before excelling in wheelchair basketball, Trevon was a wrestler. He has represented Team USA for over 15 years. He’s also a proud father of two and works for the Secret Service.

In our conversation, Trevon opens up about his passion for hard work, the immense sacrifices he’s made to reach his goals, and the crucial role that mindset plays in his success. I know you’ll take away so much from this inspiring conversation with him. It was truly an honor to interview Trevon for the podcast.

On a personal note, I recently watched wheelchair basketball in the Paralympics, and it was absolutely incredible. It’s been so exciting to see how much more media attention and coverage the Paralympics are getting this year. Let’s keep that momentum going! With the Olympics and Paralympics coming to LA in 2028, there’s a huge opportunity to bring even more visibility to these sports. So let’s keep supporting and cheering on these amazing athletes.

Please enjoy my conversation with Trevon Jenifer!

What we talked about:

5:15- Trevon’s backstory and being born without legs

16:30- His path to the Paralympics and his training

19:00- Watching his kids become athletes

28:45- Recapping his career so far and winning medals

37:20- Growth of the media attention on the Paralympics

42:50- Teaching our kids about differences

48:25- His motivational speaking engagements

45:10- His career

57:40- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Trevon on Instagram

Books:

A Court of Thorns and Roses

Spy the Lie

Shows:

Lioness

The Agency

Movies:

The Bodyguard

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Katie has an impressive resume. She’s represented Team USA in cross country at the World Cross Country Championships, and she also recently placed third at the Sound Running Cross Country Championships. This summer she competed in her second Olympic Trials, where she placed 13th in the 10,000 meters. While that wasn’t the place she had hoped for, she’ll share more about her journey to the start line and the lessons she’s learned from that experience. Katie also competed in the 2020 (well, technically 2021) Olympic Trials, representing Arkansas, where she had an incredible college career. She placed third at the NCAA Cross Country Championships and helped lead her team to an NCAA championship title in cross country. Katie also spent time competing for Cal Poly during her undergrad, and now she runs for Adidas, calling Flagstaff home as her training base.

I hope you enjoy my conversation with Katie!

What we talked about: 

4:45- Her training team, running for Adidas, and moving to Flagstaff

9:15- Her college career

20:10- The decision to run professionally

22:45- Her two Olympic Trials experiences

32:15- Her half marathon debut

38:45- Making Team USA for cross country

41:15- Plans to run a marathon

32:55- Injuries that she battled this year leading into the Olympic Trials

46:30- What’s next for Katie – Houston Half

55:00- Religious/spiritual beliefs and mainfestation

1:05:20- End of podcast questions

Media Suggestions:

• Ted Lasso
• Shrinking
• The Expanded Podcast
• The Secret- Rhonda Byrn
• The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success – Deepak Chopra
• The Power of Now – Eckhart Tolle
• Becoming Supernatural – Dr. Joe Dispenza
• Choose Strong – Sally McRae

Artists Recommended:

The Band Perry

Keith Urban

Vance Joy

Eric Church

Eli Young Band

Luke Bryan

Post Malone

Jelly Roll

Morgan Wallen

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During our conversation, we discuss what it’s like to reach the pinnacle of the sport—making the Olympic team—and what it feels like to walk away from a race with both triumphs and disappointments. Savilia opens up about how she’s moving forward in her training after the Olympics and how she’s approaching her next steps as an elite athlete.

What I love most about this series is the opportunity to view the world of sport through the eyes of athletes who excel in disciplines outside of running. There’s so much we can learn from them, particularly when it comes to developing a champion’s mindset. Whether they’re on a bike, in a rowing boat, scaling a rock wall, or spiking a volleyball, these athletes are tackling their own challenges and bringing invaluable insights to the table.

We’ve had the privilege of speaking with some incredible athletes in this series, and I encourage you to check out the other interviews, which will be linked in the show notes. Even though we’re talking about different sports, there’s a lot of crossover, especially in the mental aspects of training, and I think you’ll find the episodes just as engaging as this one.

For me personally, as a parent, these conversations are a great opportunity to reflect on how I can encourage my own kids to be hard workers and to take pride in all the things they care about. As I mention in this episode, it’s a delicate balance—teaching kids to push themselves, work hard, and strive for excellence, while also allowing them the freedom to explore and enjoy what they do. Moving our bodies should be fun, and hard work can be, too.

If you’re enjoying this series, or know someone who might appreciate hearing from athletes outside of the running world, please share the episode with them. The best way to support the podcast is by leaving a rating or review on iTunes or wherever you listen. Thank you for being here, and I hope you enjoy my conversation with Savilia Blunk!

What we talked about:

4:30- Savilia’s introduction to the sport

12:05- Learning how to work hard

15:10- How she is feeling coming off of the Olympics

27:15- Bike maintenance

29:35- When she plans to get married

30:20- The moment that she qualified for the Olympics and how the qualification system works

39:30- How cross country mountain biking works and what the course is like

47:10- The technical side of the sport

49:50- Mindset while competing

52:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

All Fours

Trips for Kids – nonprofit organization

Other athletes in this series:

Episode 567 with Kristen Faulkner

Episode 570 with Kendall Chase

Episode 571 with Jennifer Lozano

Episode 573 with Sophie Bukovec

Episode 575 with Piper Kelly

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Both Kara and Des are also authors. They are both authors—Kara’s Running for Women and Des’ Choosing to Run—and it’s been so fun watching their friendship blossom over the past year, especially as they teamed up to launch their podcast. We talk a bit about the evolution of their relationship and podcast in this episode. Kara is a two-time Olympic and World Championship silver medalist, and one of the most authentic and honest people I’ve ever met. Her voice and perspective, along with Des’, make their podcast so special.

What excites me most about Nobody Asked Us is how it has the potential to take our sport of running beyond our little bubble. Both Kara and Des have such a wide-reaching platform, and their podcast is a great way to bring new people into the sport and spark more interest in running, which is ultimately so beneficial for all of us.

I’m cheering them on as they continue to grow and succeed in both their podcasting journey and beyond. I hope this intro did them justice, though most of you listening probably already know these two, so they don’t need much of an introduction! That said, I’ll include links to prior episodes with Kara and Des in these show notes if you want to dive into those past conversations.

Okay, enough from me—please enjoy this conversation with Kara and Des!

What we talked  about:

4:00- Nobody Asked Us

8:30- First impressions of each other

19:15- Misconceptions about each other and how the podcast has changed that

25:00- Covering controversial topics

36:10- Favorite running moments in 2024

45:20- Running moments we’re looking forward to in 2025

53:35- End of podcast chat

1:07:07- What is coming up for Des and Kara and Nobody Asked Us

Show notes:

Kara on the I’ll Have Another Podcast previously:

Episode 173

Episode 528

Des on the I’ll Have Another Podcast previously:

Episode 148

Episode 171

Episode 240

Episode 534

Songs:

HomeTown Hero – JR Carol

Stick Season – Noah Kahan

Dirrty – Christina Aguilera

Bad Guy – Eminem

Please, Please, Please – Sabrina Carpenter

All She Wants to Do is Dance – Don Henley

I Know – De La Soul

A Little Respect – Erasure

Podcasts:

Pretendians – Canadaland Investigates Podcast

Nobody Should Believe Me Podcast

Armchair Expert

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From The Marathon Project Website:

Ben has been just about everything there is to be in the running industry: professional runner, run specialty store owner, race director, marketing director, non-profit executive director and Olympic level coach.

During his eight-plus years as the Northern Arizona Elite head coach and executive director, NAZ athletes produced 87 wins, 13 national titles, ten World Marathon Major Top-10s, eight World Championship appearances, and one Olympic Trials Marathon victory.

Part of the The Marathon Project ownership group, Ben serves as TMP CEO and works on everything from branding, content and social media, to athlete recruitment, sponsorships, race day execution and more. He also serves as the TMP Experience Head Coach and has personally written all of The Marathon Project Training Plans.

Show Notes:

The Barn – Wright Thompson

American Midnight – Adam Hochschild

Gambler – Billy Walters

Schedule of Events for The Marathon Project

Friday, December 19th:
10:00am – Course Preview Run
11:00am – 7:00pm – Packet Pick Up and TMP Expo
1:00pm – Professional Athlete Press Conference
5:00pm – 7:00pm – TMP Happy Hour

Saturday, December 20th:
7:20am – TMP 5K
8:40am – Gold Wave Marathon
Noon – Awards Ceremony
10:00am – 1:00pm – TMP After Party

Sunday, December 21st:
7:30am – Professional Marathon
10:30am – Professional Race Awards Ceremony

If you’re not already familiar with Molly’s story, she’s been on the podcast before—Episode 356 back in 2022—after her second-place finish at the CIM Marathon with a time of 2:29:17. Over the years, Molly has built a reputation as one of the top marathoners in the U.S. She ran for the University of Oregon, where she became a five-time All-American, and has competed in the 2020 U.S. Marathon Trials in Atlanta (placing 25th) and again in the 2024 Trials in Orlando (where she placed 13th).

Molly currently lives in Boulder and trains under coach Rick Rojas, who is the father of fellow elite runner Nell Rojas. She’s also a full-time professional, balancing a busy career with her intense training. In this episode, we also talk about her love of reading and the ways she keeps her mind sharp off the track. It was great to catch up with Molly, and I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did recording it!

What we talked about:

3:30- Recapping Valencia Marathon

5:45- Goals going into the race

7:40- How the race played out for Molly

13:30- Looking at Molly’s marathon career as a whole

14:00- How she avoids the comparsion trap in running

16:45- Her training build leading into Valencia

20:30- Her boyfriend, Morgan’s recent success in the triathlon

23:15- Her coaching situation 

27:50- Reflecting on her Olympic Marathon trials result

39:55- What’s next for Molly

44:30- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Media recommendations:

A Court of Thorns and Roses Box Set

Fourth Wing

Twilight

Harry Potter Series

Throne of Glass 

It Ends with Us

Below Deck

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Big thank you to every person who listens to I’ll Have Another Podcast, thank you to my wonderful editor Emma Benner and the Sponsors who have supported the show over this past year!

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Books Recs:

Finding Me – Viola Davis

Husbands and Lovers – Beatriz Williams

Start with Welcome – Bri Stensrud

The Berry Pickers – Amanda Peters

Demon Copperhead – Barbara Kingsolver

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In this episode, we talk about a really exciting project James has been involved with—the McKirdy Micro Marathon. If you haven’t heard of it, this was a short-loop race held last October, designed to help fast runners run even faster. The event was a massive success and gained a lot of attention. One of James’s athletes, McKenna Myler, who placed seventh at the Olympic Trials, actually secured her trials qualifier there. Callie Thackery also ran a personal best of 2:21. It was an exciting and innovative event that really made waves in the running community.

James also works with incredible athletes like Tebello Ramakongana, who placed seventh at the 2024 Paris Olympics. Tebello’s marathon personal best is 2:07, and he has a half marathon PR of 1:00:17—truly impressive times. James shares a bit about working with athletes like Tebello and how they’ve shaped their journeys toward success.

One of the things we dive into is James’s work with athletes who come to Flagstaff to train and his professional program that they’ve developed there. The Flagstaff environment is known for its high-altitude training, and James’s program has helped many athletes reach their potential.

You can learn more about James’s coaching at mckirdytrained.com, and if you’re looking for coaching support, they offer a wealth of expertise to athletes of all levels.

I hope you enjoy this conversation with James McKirdy as much as I did! It’s always a pleasure to chat with someone who’s so passionate about coaching and supporting athletes at every stage of their journey. Enjoy the episode!

What we talked about:

5:00- Growing his coaching business

9:35- What makes a good coach

14:00- Fun coaching questions

18:00- His own running injuries

26:00- Developing his professional training group

39:00- His coaching clientelle

43:30- The Olympics Trials marathon standard

52:00- The micromarathon that James and Heather hosted

1:10:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

mckirdytrained.com

Media recommendations:

The Bomber Mafia

Cobra Kai

The First Conspiracy

Kristin Hannah books

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Back in 2017, 2018, and 2019, Roberta was getting a lot of attention for her performances, including running in the low 2:30s at CIM in 2017. She was training and racing a lot during that time, and even qualified for the 2020 Olympic Trials. Unfortunately, that race ended in a DNF, but that moment in her life became a turning point, which we talk about in detail during our conversation.

Fast forward to 2024, where Roberta competed in the Olympic Trials in Orlando. She placed 24th with a time of 2:33. While the time goals were no longer in the picture, Roberta shared how the race felt like a return to herself—the love of running and the joy of racing without the pressure. We also talk about how she ran a smart race in Valencia with a one-minute negative split. After executing that strategy, you can’t help but wonder what might happen if she takes a few more risks in future races!

Another highlight of Roberta’s career that we discuss is her amazing performance at the 2019 Marathon World Championships in Doha, where she placed sixth in brutal heat, becoming the top American finisher. She executed that race flawlessly, and it’s one of the moments that truly defines her career. We also touch on the coaching changes in her life and how she has made a significant career shift from nursing to focus full-time on coaching.

On top of all of this, Roberta is a mom to three boys, with one still in high school, and we dive into some of the wisdom she’s gathered along the way.

This conversation was so refreshing, and I felt like I got to know Roberta even better. I hope you do too. I think you’ll walk away from this episode with some great insights on how to enjoy life to the fullest, take risks, and be grateful. Enjoy the conversation with Roberta Groner!

What we talked about:

3:00- Catching up with Roberta post race

18:30- All of the changes in her life in the past 5 years and going full time in coaching

26:30- Being coached by Steve Magness and reflecting on her 6th place finish at the world championships in the marathon

38:00- Roberta’s fueling strategy

40:45- Roberta’s race at Paris

44:00- Roberta’s partner, Sam

50:55- The financial side of running for Roberta

54:00- Breaking masters records

1:00:00- Enjoying every day

1:08:20- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Roberta on Instagram

Media recommendations:

All the Broken Places

Money Heist

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Samantha is an accomplished runner herself, having qualified for the US Marathon Olympic Trials in both 2016 and 2020. She also qualified for the 10,000 meters at the 2020 Olympic Trials. I love the dynamic of having a husband and wife coaching duo—it’s not something you see very often—and we talk a little bit about that in this episode. They’re also expecting their second child, so we dive into how they balance family life with coaching.

In our conversation, we dig into the culture they work hard to build within their teams, what they prioritize to create a successful environment for their athletes, and how they foster a sense of value for every single person, especially when you’ve got star athletes like Parker Valby on your roster. There’s so much valuable insight about coaching philosophies, team dynamics, and balancing career and family in this episode. I really enjoyed getting to know Will and Samantha, and I know you will too!

What we talked about:

5:00- Catching up about the Florida Gators

6:25- Being a married coaching duo while raising a family

11:05- The decision to coach at Florida

25:00- Making sure every athlete feels valued on the team

32:00- Coaching Parker Valby

41:00- Favorite moments as a coach

43:30- Volume for each athlete

54:45- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

The Four Agreements

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Looking back before CIM, this is a continuation of her remarkable comeback story. In February, at the Olympic Marathon Trials, Steph was only four months postpartum. Yet she still showed up and ran an impressive 2:47, proving that she wasn’t just recovering, but ready to return to racing at a high level. Fast forward to CIM, and she’s just one minute off her personal best of 2:27, which she ran in Chicago back in 2019. To say this was a great day for Steph would be an understatement—it was an incredible achievement and a testament to her hard work, resilience, and determination.

In this episode, we also dive into some major changes happening in Steph’s professional life. Recently, Hoka NAZ Elite made the decision to let go of several athletes, including Steph. We talk about her perspective on this news, how she’s feeling, and what’s next for her moving forward. It was a candid and insightful conversation, and I’m so grateful to have had the chance to catch up with her.

Honestly, I really enjoy these types of conversations, and it makes me wonder why I don’t do them more often. Talking to Steph is always a blast, and I hope you all enjoy listening as much as I did recording it!

What we talked about:

5:00- Recapping her race at CIM

26:05- The comeback postpartum and deciding to run the trials

37:20- The changes with her sponsorship with Hoka

48:10- How she is feeling heading into the new year

57:25- End of podcast chat

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Beyond his success on the track, Dr. Messer holds a PhD in exercise physiology, blending a deep scientific understanding of coaching with real-world experience. He’s coached athletes like Jess McClain and Dani Jones, and his wealth of knowledge is a powerful combination of cutting-edge research and practical application. What really sets him apart is how he’s able to integrate the science of coaching with the heart and soul it takes to truly connect with and elevate athletes. He cares deeply about the individuals he coaches, and that genuine investment in their growth and success is evident in every aspect of his approach.

This episode is packed with valuable insights for anyone who has ever wanted to coach, is currently coaching, or is searching for the qualities of a great coach. Dr. Jeff Messer exemplifies what it means to be a class act in coaching—someone who combines expertise, passion, and a deep commitment to the athletes they serve.

What we talked about:

3:00- Getting to know Dr. Jeff Messer and his training

12:40- Effort in workouts

19:45- Coaching high schoolers

40:30- The importance of academics alongside sport

45:00- Holding standards at practice

52:45- The science side of the sport

1:16:30- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Work with Jeff

Media recommendations:

Heartbreak Ridge

Amazing Racers

Van Halen

Other Coaching Series Episodes:

Diljeet Taylor – Episode 455

Jenna Wrieden – Episode 453

Kevin Hanson – Episode 451

Sheila Burrell – Episode 449

Ryan Hall – Episode 447

Jon Green – Episode 445

High school coaching series:

Chris Turner – Episode 477

Chuck Schwartz – Episode 483

Lisa Taylor – Episode 481

Robyn McGillis and Marie Markham – Episode 479

Brian Rosetti – Episode 475

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Evan’s coaching roster includes athletes like Emma Kertesz, who you may remember from her recent Bayshore Marathon victory and Laura Thweatt, so you get a sense of how much he’s involved with the running community. He’s had athletes achieve incredible feats, including appearances at the 2024 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, the 2024 BAA 5K Pro Field, the 2023 BAA Half Marathon Pro Field, and the 2023 Chicago Marathon Pro Field.

In addition to his coaching career, Evan is an accomplished runner himself. His marathon PR is 2:18:19 and he has a half marathon PR of 67:28.

Evan is a USATF-certified marathon specialist coach, and you can learn more about his coaching approach and services at evanschwartzcoaching.com.

What we talked about:

5:00- How The Track Club got started

11:10- His career before coaching full time

16:00- The business side of The Track Club

20:15- His own coach and how he has influenced Evan’s coaching career

24:10- High mileage training plans

28:30- His favorite cross training and heat training methods

38:50- Words of encouragement that he gives athletes on race day

47:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Evan’s website

Book recommendations:

A Tale for the Time Being

Other Coaching Series Episodes:

Diljeet Taylor – Episode 455

Jenna Wrieden – Episode 453

Kevin Hanson – Episode 451

Sheila Burrell – Episode 449

Ryan Hall – Episode 447

Jon Green – Episode 445

High school coaching series:

Chris Turner – Episode 477

Chuck Schwartz – Episode 483

Lisa Taylor – Episode 481

Robyn McGillis and Marie Markham – Episode 479

Brian Rosetti – Episode 475

Connect with Lindsey: 

Lindsey on Instagram

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Lindi grew up an athlete, competing in gymnastics and later bodybuilding in college, but her life took a dramatic turn in 2017 when she was in a horrific car accident that led to the loss of her right leg. This all happened shortly after her wedding as she was starting a new chapter! In this conversation, Lindi shares how she has overcome incredible adversity and built the strength to become the fastest above-knee amputee woman in the United States.

This episode is filled with resilience, strength, and determination. Whether you’re an athlete or not, Lindi’s story will leave you feeling inspired by her perseverance and her commitment to not only reclaiming her life but excelling at the highest level in her sport. Enjoy my conversation with Lindi!

What we talked about:

2:30- Catching up with Lindi!

3:55- Growing up as an athlete and the path to becoming a Paralympian

16:00- Finding acceptance and peace in life

21:45- Finding athletics again after her accident

24:00- Becoming a Paralympian

26:00- Becoming a long jumper

30:00- Staying calm before big events

31:00- What making the team meant to Lindi

32:10- Walking through hard times and staying present

39:00- The importance of sport

46:05- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Lindi on Instagram

Book recommendation:

Zen Mind, Beginner’s Mind

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We also talk about Piper’s journey to the Olympics, her first Olympic experience, and how she’s gotten to where she is today. I learned a ton, and I think you will too. Since the interview, I’ve even been inspired to take my kids rock climbing. We’ve gone a few times before, but this time I took all of them, and they had a blast. One of the best parts of this series is that it’s reminding me to push my kids to try new and different sports—not just running, but exploring all kinds of movement and adventure.

I also think you’ll appreciate hearing what it’s like to be a professional rock climber, especially in terms of sponsorships and the unique aspects of that lifestyle. And if you had a chance to catch any of the speed climbing events during the Olympics this summer, you’ll know how exciting it is to watch. It’s one of those sports that grabs your attention fast, and Piper does an amazing job explaining why.

So, whether you’re already a fan of climbing or just curious about the sport, I think you’ll love this conversation. Don’t forget to follow Piper’s journey as she gears up for Paris 2024!

What we talked about:

4:15- Her entry into the sport of speed climbing

6:10- The different disciplines of climbing

8:55- Why she chose the speed climbing discipline

12:05- Different styles of climbing

16:05- Running in high school

18:15- Making the Olympic team

24:15- Her family of elite athletes and how her parents instilled a passion for movement

35:20- Dealing with injuries in the sport

39:40- Growth in the sport

44:35- The financial aspect of the sport

48:50- Her role as a coach

50:20- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

@Piper.Climbs on Instagram

Book recommendations:

Dune Series

Fast GIrls

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Emma Grace has had a remarkable year. She’s practically run the entire USATF circuit across multiple distances and has had such great results at so many of them. Just a week before her half marathon debut, she placed third at the USATF 5K Championships in New York. She also placed third at the 10K championships and the 6K championships this year. On top of all that, she represented the United States for the first time at the World Cross Country Championships. Though we didn’t dive into that experience in this episode, I want to direct you to The Relay Podcast, where Mike Ko and I interviewed Emma Grace right after her World Cross race. That episode aired on April 5th, so be sure to check it out in the feed if you’re interested in hearing more about her international debut.

What we talked about:

5:15- The decision to race the half marathon

8:30- Recapping her race

22:00- Her mentality during the race

25:00- The Heartland Track Club team

28:00- What’s next in training

44:15- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Emma on Instagram

Media recommendations:

The Perfect Couple

The Five Star Weekend

The White Lotus

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In this episode, Sophie breaks down what it’s like to compete at the highest levels of beach volleyball, including the unique aspects of the sport, training regimens, and how athletes select their partners. She also shares what life looks like as a professional volleyball player, how she balances competition with her role as founder and executive director of a volleyball academy, and offers advice for young kids considering the sport. We also explore the mindset needed for success in volleyball, as well as Sophie’s unforgettable first Olympic experience in Paris.

You can connect with Sophie on Instagram @sophiebukovec and let her know what you thought of this episode. Enjoy my conversation with Sophie Bukovec!

What we talked about:

3:00- Catching up and getting to know Sophie

8:20- Advice to younger athletes in volleyball

12:45- Discussing her volleyball partners

17:00- The way she set up her training to best prepare herself to be selected for the Olympic team

18:20- Encouraging young girls to stay in sport

21:20- The strength training that she incorporates into her training

25:00- When should you specialize in sports?

27:30- Mental training in sports

28:30- Her Olympic experience

33:30- Sponsorships in the sport

34:55- What off-season is looking like for Sophie

40:30- Why we should be supporting and watching beach volleyball

41:50- Playing on the USC volleyball team and her career as a volleyball player

48:30- Honoring her dad while playing

49:45- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Sophie on Instagram

The Northern Elite (Sophie’s volleyball academy)

Book recommendations:

Dialed In

Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert

A History of Irish Fairies by Carolyn White

Artist:

Chris Stapleton

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Lindsey on Instagram

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We dive into Katie’s training and life as a professional ultra runner. She lives in a remote part of France with her partner, where she enjoys the solitude and beauty of the mountains. Much of her training involves running, skiing, and biking, with a unique emphasis on ski mountaineering (or “ski-mo”), a form which serves as a demanding cross-training tool that she implements into her training during the winter months. It’s fascinating to hear how a top athlete integrates skiing into her routine, maintaining peak fitness during the off-season.

Katie also holds a PhD in geology and shares how her academic background influences her approach to life and training. Beyond her impressive racing resume, which includes podium finishes at nearly every major ultra, she has set her sights on future challenges, including the iconic Hardrock 100.

Sponsored by The North Face, Katie is an athlete you won’t want to miss following. You can connect with her on Instagram at @katieschide for more updates on her career and adventures in the mountains.

What we talked about:

9:00- Living and training in a remote area

14:25- Including skiing in her training and what winter training looks like

24:30- The past two years of Western States performances

33:45- Winning UTMB and winning Western States in one year

39:50- Her coach and what she attributes her running successes to

52:05- The rise of women in the sport of trail and ultra running

53:00- Breaking the course record at UTMB

1:02:20- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Katie on Instagram

themarmots.run

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A Court of Thorns and Roses series

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Growing up in the border town of Laredo, Texas, Jennifer started her boxing journey at the age of nine. She qualified for the Olympic Games by winning a silver medal at the Pan American Games in Santiago in 2023. Notably, she is the first person from Laredo, Texas, to ever qualify for the Olympics, marking a significant milestone for her community.

In this episode, Jennifer shares her incredible journey in the sport—how she got to where she is today, what her training and lifestyle looked like leading up to the Olympics, and the immense effort and self-belief that fueled her success. She also opens up about the obstacles she faced along the way.

I came into this conversation knowing very little about boxing and the pathways to the top, and I really enjoyed learning more about it from Jennifer. Jennifer has a deep commitment to giving back to her hometown, Laredo, Texas, and she shares her dreams for bringing opportunities to her community.

To learn more about Jennifer and follow her journey, connect with her on Instagram @jenniferlozano1124. If you’re enjoying this series or know someone who would be interested in hearing about this episode and learning more about our Olympic athletes on Team USA, please share it!

What we talked about:

3:30- Recapping the Olympics

7:15- Growing up in Laredo, Texas

13:00- How she got into boxing

25:20- Qualifying for the Olympic team

29:10- Her trait of being so hard working

35:00- Her heritage and family

40:00- Boxing coming into the Olympics

45:10- Mentality during boxing

52:10- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Jennifer on Instagram

Book recommendations:

By The Time You Read This

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We also talk about her coaching philosophy and what it’s like to work with athletes at MIT. As a fan of the book Boys in the Boat—which, if you’ve been listening for a while, you know I’ve referenced plenty—I couldn’t resist bringing in some of my rowing questions inspired by the book. If you’re at all interested in rowing or have ever wondered what goes into Olympic-level training, this conversation is full of insights. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!

What we talked about:

3:00- Rowing chit chat: her career, coaching, and all about the sport itself

36:30- Her brain injury from a cycling injury

55:00- Becoming an Olympian

1:04:00- Athlete Ally

1:08:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Athlete Ally

Kendall on Instagram

Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo

Malibu Rising

Daisy Jones and the Six

Boys in the Boat

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In this conversation, he shares the story of how he became a Paralympian, the moments that led to his leg amputation at a young age, and the journey he went on through 11 surgeries.

Jarryd is a father of two and is supported by Toyota and No Bull. I really enjoyed getting to know Jarryd and I hope that you enjoy this conversation as well!

What we talked about:

4:25- His journey in track and becoming a Paralympian

16:00- His faith

30:10- Parenting

36:45- Meeting his wife

38:40- His sponsors in the sport

51:30- Building community it his life

56:40- His favorite moment from the Paralympics

1:10:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Donald Miller Books:

A Million Miles in a Thousand Years

Blue Like Jazz

Do Over by Jon Acuff

The Dirty Guv’nahs

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Beyond her impressive athletic achievements, Malindi is also a dedicated coach and a mother of two. She has raised over $24,000 for Kids Sport, an initiative that provides grants to help cover registration fees so that all kids aged 18 and under can enjoy a season of their favorite sport in Canada. Her motivation to train hard for the Olympic marathon was fueled by this meaningful cause.

Some of Malindi’s remarkable career highlights include finishing ninth in the Olympic marathon in Tokyo, holding the Canadian marathon record, and being a seven-time Canadian champion. She’s also a past Stanford University record holder, a six-time All-American, and a bronze medalist in the World Cross Country Team Championships, Pan American Games, and World University Games. With a personal best marathon time of 2:24, Malindi has an impressive range of accomplishments.

In addition to her success in track and road racing, she also competed competitively in triathlon, debuting in Ironman with an impressive time of under nine hours. Malindi made history as the oldest finisher in the Olympic marathon at 44 years old, and she shows no signs of slowing down!

If you enjoy this episode, please share it with your friends! I’m always cheering for Malindi and the rest of Team Canada. And if you have a moment, a quick rating and review would be hugely helpful. Let’s dive into this inspiring conversation!

What we talked about:

3:10- Catching up with Malindi post Olympics

8:05- Her marathoning career

11:00- Enjoying the process

15:00- The support from the running community

17:00- Recapping the Olympic marathon

28:15- Her passion for youth sports

39:00- Her husband’s role in her running career

44:30- Speedwork in marathon training

50:00- What’s next in her career

51:30- End of podcast questions

Show note:

Kid Sport Canada

Tirop’s Angels

Book recommendations:

Wish You Were Here by Jodi Picoult

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Today, I have the honor of speaking with two-time Olympic gold medalist Kristen Faulkner. If you’ve been following cycling this year, you know her name. She made headlines by winning gold at the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris, marking Team USA’s first women’s road race medal in 40 years! Plus, she became the first US woman to win Olympic gold in two different disciplines at the same Olympics—what an achievement!

Kristen’s journey is fascinating. She grew up in Alaska, attended Harvard, and then worked as a venture capitalist in New York City. Her entry into cycling was in 2017 when she attended a free introductory cycling clinic for women.

In our conversation, we dive into her mindset, her path to making her first Olympic team, and what it felt like to earn those two gold medals. Kristen is also incredibly passionate about women’s equality in sports, and we touch on that important topic as well.

I learned so much from Kristen during our chat, and I can’t wait for you to hear it! If you enjoy the episode, please share it with your friends on social media. I think these discussions will resonate not just with runners but with anyone interested in the world of sports.

Enjoy my conversation with Kristen Faulkner!

What we talked about:

4:30- Catching up with Kristen post summer season

5:45- Kristen’s introduction to cycling

15:00- Her Olympic dream

20:25- The process for qualifying for the Olympics in cycling

25:15- The transition from a corporate career to cycling

28:40- How road racing works

32:00- How she defines greatness

35:15- Curiosity of what I am capable of

36:45- Safety and fear in biking

43:00- Recapping her gold medal race

49:35- Sponsorships in cycling

52:30- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

KristenFaulkner.com

Kristen on Instagram

Good for a Girl by Lauren Fleshman

Jay Shetty Podcast

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Ally Brettnacher is the Owner of Athlete Bouquets and the Host of the Finish Lines & Milestones Podcast. She is the Vice President of the Board of Directors for Beyond Monumental, the organization behind the CNO Indianapolis Monumental Marathon. Ally is an avid runner and has run 60+ half marathons and several full marathons since 2008. Outside of running, she’s a wife and mom of two girls and lives in Carmel, Indiana.

Finish Lines and Milestones is a podcast that celebrates the everyday runner. Whether you’re a seasoned marathoner, ultramarathoner, prefer shorter distances, or just getting started – if you run, you’re a runner, and every runner has a story. Join host, Ally Brettnacher, every week as she shares these runner stories. 

In this episode, you’ll get a peak into what you can expect from the Finish Lines and Milestones Podcast hosted by Ally! In this episode, Ally interviews Cameron Balser who ran around the perimeter of the United States of America!! That’s a total of 11,170 miles in 294 days which is an average of 40 miles PER DAY! In this episode, you’ll hear Cam’s backstory, how he found running, his run around the USA and how it happened, and so many fun stories along the way!

I hope that you enjoy this episode! Make sure to subscribe to the Finish Lines and Milestones podcast! Thanks for following along and supporting the shows in the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network. I am so grateful!!

Clayton and I also discuss the current state of American marathoning and the potential for breaking the men’s record, which has stood since 2002! It’s an exciting time in the sport, and I have a feeling we’re on the brink of some big changes.

For a bit of background, Clayton runs for ASICS, is a proud father of two, and boasts an impressive resume as a four-time USA road champ and NCAA 10K champ, having run for BYU. He’s gearing up for the New York City Marathon this fall, so we’ll definitely be following his journey as he extends his Olympic season!

He first joined this podcast on Episode 519 back in February 2024, right after making the Olympic team alongside his training partner, Conner Mantz. If you’re curious about their journey and training together, definitely check out that episode!

What we talked about:

3:00- Catching up with Clayton post Olympics

12:45- Training with Conner and finding belief in his training

29:00- The decision to not take the kids to the Paris Olympics

32:00- Takeaways from the Olympics

39:00- Conner and Clayton’s high five during the race

41:35- Catching the lead pack during the race

55:55- How he is feeling ahead of the NYC marathon

1:01- Eyeing the American record in the marathon

1:06:30- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Podcast recommendations:

Joe Rogan Experience – Episode #1411 with Robert Downey Junior

The Coffee Club Podcast

Book recommendations:

Demon Copperhead

The Covenant of Water

Choosing to Run by Des Linden

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I’ve always enjoyed interviewing field athletes in track and field, as they often don’t get the spotlight they deserve, and Kara is one of my favorites. She’s at an exciting crossroads in her career, and I can’t wait for you to hear about all that she is looking forward to ahead.

Also, a fun tidbit—Kara had the honor of being a flag bearer for Team USA during the closing ceremonies at the Tokyo Olympics, which is just amazing. Make sure to check her out on Instagram at @Karathrowsjav for more of her journey!

What we talked about:

3:30- How this retirement is feeling different than the last one

17:00- Her experience at the Olympic Trials

20:45- How to handle heartbreak in sport

23:10- Her decision to not chase the standard and have to throw it at the trials

33:35- Coaching

39:30- The growth of javelin as a sport

42:40- Allowing yourself to change your mind

51:40- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Cast, Catch, Release by Marina Gibson

Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

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In this episode, we dive into the world of strength training and how it can benefit endurance athletes, especially runners. Chris shares valuable insights on how dedicating time to strength training can make you a stronger, more efficient runner and help prevent injuries. And he’s got a cool new project in the works that he shares about!

So, whether you’re a seasoned runner or just starting out, you won’t want to miss this conversation!!

What we talked about:

6:00- Chris’ background

10:55- Strength training plan for marathoners

15:00- Injury prevention for various common injuries

30:00- The app that he has built out

39:00- Thoughts on creatine

43:00- Key takeaways on strength training

50:45- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

WhichWeight App

KinesisIntegrated.com

Book recommendations:

The Performance Cortex

The Untethered Soul

Musician he mentions:

Tash Sultana

Other Coaching Series Episodes:

Diljeet Taylor – Episode 455

Jenna Wrieden – Episode 453

Kevin Hanson – Episode 451

Sheila Burrell – Episode 449

Ryan Hall – Episode 447

Jon Green – Episode 445

High school coaching series:

Chris Turner – Episode 477

Chuck Schwartz – Episode 483

Lisa Taylor – Episode 481

Robyn McGillis and Marie Markham – Episode 479

Brian Rosetti – Episode 475

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This past year has been quite a journey for Susanna. She represented Team USA for the first time at the 2023 World Championships in Budapest, where she finished the marathon with a broken kneecap. This setback led to a long recovery period, preventing her from competing in the Olympic Trials earlier this year. On top of that, she also tested positive for COVID during her comeback. However, she did run at the Olympic Trials in the 10,000 meters this summer.

Leading up to the Chicago Marathon, Susanna had some solid races, nearly setting a personal best in the half marathon. Susanna’s commitment to both her teaching career and marathon training is truly inspiring. Plus, she recently got married, adding even more excitement to her life. There’s so much to explore in this episode, and I can’t wait for you to hear from her!

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Stef is one of my favorite people in the running community. I’ve had the pleasure of collaborating with her on the Relay Podcast, and she also co-hosts the podcast Making Strides with Carolyn Su.

Stef is an incredibly accomplished athlete, having won the 2021 USATF 100 Mile National Championship as well as the Tunnel Hill 100 Mile Championship in both 2020 and 2021. Beyond her impressive running achievements, she’s also a writer and a medical doctor by trade, although she has since transitioned from that profession to focus on her running, coaching, writing, and podcasting. She truly does it all!

What stands out about Stef is her thoroughness; when you ask her a question, she responds with deep, meaningful insights. This thoughtful approach extends to her coaching as well. You can find her on Instagram at @stephanieflippin and check out her website at stefflippin.com. If you enjoy this episode, make sure to check out her work on the Making Strides Podcast and the Relay Podcast.

What we talked about:

3:25- Stef’s podcast, Making Strides

5:15-  Her own running

11:50- Catching up on her coaching career

13:50- Structuring peak marathon training

28:30- Favorite course to run a marathon PR

34:00- Fueling

42:00- Type of athletes that she coaches

49:15- Leaving practicing medicine

55:35- Advice to various levels of marathoners

1:06:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Where the Crawdads Sing

Jodi Picoult

Kristin Hannah

The British Journal of Sports Medicine

Other Coaching Series Episodes:

Diljeet Taylor – Episode 455

Jenna Wrieden – Episode 453

Kevin Hanson – Episode 451

Sheila Burrell – Episode 449

Ryan Hall – Episode 447

Jon Green – Episode 445

High school coaching series:

Chris Turner – Episode 477

Chuck Schwartz – Episode 483

Lisa Taylor – Episode 481

Robyn McGillis and Marie Markham – Episode 479

Brian Rosetti – Episode 475

Connect with Lindsey: 

Lindsey on Instagram

Lindsey on Twitter

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Galen has been known for keeping the training and life close to the vest and shows up at races to tell the story. Needless to say I was really excited to find out I would have the honor to interview him at the Abbott Health & Fitness Expo during the Bank of America Chicago Marathon Weekend.

Galen is the father of four kids and over the past 20 years has proven time and time again that he is one of the very best. I loved exploring all of this with him on stage at the expo and hope that you will take some great advice and insight from Galen.

Thank you so much for being here!!

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Deena has held a multitude of American Records over the years but one that we never stop talking about is that American Record in the marathon that she held for 19 years! She is also an Olympic Bronze medalist in the marathon from Athens in 2004.

A few years ago she wrote the book “Let Your Mind Run” and that book really changed the way we all thought about how we can use our minds to be strong athletes.

I know you’re all gonna take something special from this conversation! Enjoy! Best of luck if you are running Chicago this weekend!!!

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Our first conversation was back in 2016, when Katie was grappling with the disappointment of missing the Olympic team for Rio. We discussed her journey toward making her first Olympic appearance, which she achieved in 2021, culminating in that stunning gold medal.

It’s been an absolute honor to watch Katie’s career unfold over the years. She has so much insight to share about the mental aspects of training and the challenges of pole vaulting. This sport demands incredible mental stamina, and Katie opens up about her experiences navigating that journey.

In this episode, she also shares insights from a recent big move in her life and what this exciting point in her career means to her. Whether you’re a die-hard pole vault fan or new to the sport, I hope you find inspiration in Katie’s story. You won’t want to miss this insightful and engaging conversation!

What we talked about:

3:45- Recapping Katie’s Olympic experience

19:25- The mental side of the sport

24:25- What motivates her in the sport

27:25- How age plays a role in sport

28:05- Career aspirations outside of sport

32:30- The controversy of the Nike uniforms

38:10- Her hometown and college team

41:45- Being a field athlete

45:30- Athletic endeavors outside of polevault that she enjoys

53:00- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Katie on Episode 334 of the I’ll Have Another Podcast

Katie on Episode 142 of the I’ll Have Another Podcast

Katie on Instagram

Book recommendations:

Beach Read

A Fatal Affair

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In this episode, we dive into David’s recent success at the Leadville 100, where he not only won but also set a new course record. His impressive credentials include being a two-time national champion and a three-time member of Team USA. He was also named the 2014 USATF Trail Runner of the Year at the sub-ultra distance. Megan, too, has an outstanding track record, having been the 2016 USATF Trail Runner of the Year in both ultra and sub-ultra distances. She’s a five-time national champion, a North American mountain running champion, and a six-time member of Team USA.

Beyond their athletic achievements, David holds degrees in environmental science, as well as a master’s and law degree with honors from Duke University. Megan graduated with honors from Duke, earning a degree in neuroscience, and later obtained her MD from Stanford Medical School, where she also completed a PhD in epidemiology, focusing on female athlete health and performance. Recently, she launched Huzzah, a platform dedicated to sharing female athlete performance science, which adds another layer to their incredible impact in the running world.

Excitingly, they are also expecting their second child! One of the highlights of our conversation revolves around fueling on the run, with a deep dive into carbohydrates and their importance. David and Megan also share their insights on cross-training and effective training strategies at a high level.

A big thank you to VDOT for supporting this podcast! Be sure to check out VDOT02.com to learn more about their amazing coaching platform, and don’t forget to use the code COACHLINDSEY.

What we talked about:

6:15- Becoming parents

15:45- Huzzah and training theories

27:45- David’s bike accident and winning Leadville

32:30- Adding cross training into training schedules

39:40- Coaching while they are still chasing their own running goals

46:10- Fueling during long efforts

57:30- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Huzzah

Some Work, All Play

Book recommendations:

Subculture Vulture

The Covenant of Water

Other Coaching Series Episodes:

Diljeet Taylor – Episode 455

Jenna Wrieden – Episode 453

Kevin Hanson – Episode 451

Sheila Burrell – Episode 449

Ryan Hall – Episode 447

Jon Green – Episode 445

High school coaching series:

Chris Turner – Episode 477

Chuck Schwartz – Episode 483

Lisa Taylor – Episode 481

Robyn McGillis and Marie Markham – Episode 479

Brian Rosetti – Episode 475

Connect with Lindsey: 

Lindsey on Instagram

Lindsey on Twitter

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Noah is legally blind and was diagnosed at age 13 with Leber Hereditary Optic Neuropathy, a rare, incurable genetic disease that leads to central vision loss. In our conversation, he opens up about his journey—from competing in various sports as a child to adapting his approach to athletics as he lost his vision. Despite the challenges, Noah became the Indiana High School State Champion in the 200 meters in 2019, and he was also a key member of the 2019 Team USA Paralympic World Champion Relay Team.

His story is truly inspiring, and you can learn more about him at noahmalone1.com. Noah has also written a book titled Losing Vision, Not Dreams: Reflections on My Teenage Years. You can connect with him on Instagram at @noah_malone13. I’m thrilled to bring you this episode, and stay tuned for more inspiring stories from the Paris Olympics and Paralympics coming your way in the next few weeks!

What we talked about:

4:00- Getting to know Noah and his running career

9:05- Losing his vision and what that meant for his athletic career

32:00- Misconceptions about the Paralympics

40:00- What is next for Noah

41:45- His sponsorship with Nike

42:15- Noah’s coaches

51:40- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Gifted Hands

Noah’s Website

Noah on Instagram

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Jack began his coaching career as the operations assistant for the University of Minnesota’s track and field and cross country programs in 2015-2016. He then moved to Utah State as the director of operations, where he organized major NCAA events. After that, he spent seven years at the University of Portland as an assistant coach, working alongside esteemed coaches Rob Conner and Ian Solof. Jack holds a Master’s in Sport Management, is a certified strength and conditioning coach, and a USATF Level 3 coach. He’s also an avid runner, having completed several marathons himself.

Jack’s passion for coaching is amazing!! By the end of our conversation, you might just find yourself wishing he could be your running and life coach too! He shares valuable insights into his coaching philosophy and the life lessons he’s learned along the way. We’ve also linked to all our previous coaching episodes in the show notes, so you can dive into more of these insightful coaching conversations.

What we talked about:

4:00- Becoming the head coach at NAZ Elite

8:30- His path to becoming a coach

20:30- Other coaches that have had a similar path to him

23:00- Helping athletes find balance

30:15- Keeping curiosity alive

32:45- Some recent accomplishments of his athletes

40:40- Helping an athlete through a hard race or training period

42:30- Celebrating wins

46:00- Staying present

48:00- Training specific questions

56:40- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Finding Mastery Podcast

Win Forever: Live, Work, and Play Like a Champion by Pete Carroll

A Completely Different Game: My Leadership Playbook by Emma Hayes

Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl

Ryan Holiday’s books

Other Coaching Series Episodes:

Diljeet Taylor – Episode 455

Jenna Wrieden – Episode 453

Kevin Hanson – Episode 451

Sheila Burrell – Episode 449

Ryan Hall – Episode 447

Jon Green – Episode 445

High school coaching series:

Chris Turner – Episode 477

Chuck Schwartz – Episode 483

Lisa Taylor – Episode 481

Robyn McGillis and Marie Markham – Episode 479

Brian Rosetti – Episode 475

Connect with Lindsey: 

Lindsey on Instagram

Lindsey on Twitter

Support our sponsors:

V.O2

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Listen to my episode with the founder of V.O2 here

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Grace brings her expertise to the conversation as we cover a ton of topics, including:

• How to talk to kids about nutrition and fueling their bodies
• Strategies for fueling performance and recovery, especially post-workout
• When to take nutrition seriously based on age and athletic level
• How to assess activity levels and adjust fueling accordingly

One of the highlights of our discussion is the concept of the “athlete plate,” which helps kids visualize what they should be putting on their plates for optimal nutrition.

We also dive into the course that Grace created, motivated by her own experiences as a parent. As her kids’ activity levels increased, she recognized the need for proper fueling. You can learn more about this valuable resource at her website, wellbeingwithgrace.com. Plus, if you decide to enroll in the course, use the code HAVEANOTHER for a 20% discount!

I hope you enjoy this conversation and pull some tips to empower your young athletes with the knowledge they need to thrive in their sport!

What we talked about:

3:00- Getting to know Grace and her family

6:40- Sibling rivalries in relation to sport

10:00- Creating her course

15:45- Helping guide our kids with nutrition

20:40- Societal pressures on body image and nutrition for our kids

32:30- Diversifying your sports

42:00- Kids nutrition Q&A

53:10- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Book recommendation:

Mental Toughness for Young Athletes

Connect with Lindsey: 

Lindsey on Instagram

Lindsey on Twitter

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We also touch on his mindset in training and racing. Conner runs for Nike and Maurten, is a BYU alum, and trains under coach Ed Eyestone alongside Clayton. In this episode, we discuss his process of making the Olympic team, recap his experience at the Olympics, and hear about his future goals.

Conner is among the many athletes coming off the Olympics set to compete in the New York City Marathon this fall, and it’ll be exciting to see how those who just came off the Paris experience perform on the streets of New York.

What we talked about:

6:00- Thoughts coming off of the Olympics

9:00-Ability to push his body so hard

14:10- What he’s learned in the sport

16:05- What he’s doing in the weight room

18:00- Recapping the Olympic Marathon

37:00- Having patience in races

42:35- His support crew in Paris

47:00- End of podcast questions

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Her son, Joaquin, joined us on this episode. He is 16 years old and an avid mountain biker. He currently races enduro and is making the shift to downhill racing. It’s such a heartwarming conversation between mother and son, and I couldn’t help but think how proud I’d be if I were his mom.

We cover topics like raising independent kids, supporting young athletes, and the importance of mindset. I really hope you all enjoy this conversation as much as I did!

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What we talked about:

5:00- The mother son dynamic

7:10- Being involved in a non-traditional sport

11:50- Learning about the sport of mountain biking

15:35- The dangers of the sport 

21:00- Encouraging our kids to challenge themselves and instilling confidence in our kids

35:00- Going all in on sport

42:00- Walking through dissapointments 

48:15- Pushing your body to the limits

51:25- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Priscilla’s website

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Chatter

How Teens Win

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Gabbi is a joy to interview, and she brings so much insight and energy to the conversation. We reflect on her recent season, including her impressive fourth-place finish at the Olympic trials this summer—a tough position, but one that showcases what’s ahead for her!

Gabbi has faced significant challenges this past summer, but she’s still raced really strong. Recently she ran a 9:07 in the steeplechase at the Rome Diamond League. She also placed 5th in the Diamond League final after we recorded!!

We also talk about being a steeplechaser right now and how the American women are really raising the bar for the steeplechase. Gabbi runs for Adidas and is coached by Joe Bosshard with Team Boss In this episode, we discuss the supportive team dynamics with Team Boss and how that has impacted her career.

What we talked about:

6:00- Racing the Diamond League final

13:40- Takeaways from the trials

16:00- Health issues leading into the trials

26:20- How she takes care of herself during times of stress

34:10- Her artwork

38:30- Training with team boss

43:10- Changes in the steeplechase as a sport

53:00- Training in Crested Butte

56:05- End of podcast questions

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Book recommendations:

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Katrina also served as the team captain for track and cross country at Georgetown University. In this episode, we dive into raising hardworking kids and how to foster a healthy relationship with sports, even in a competitive environment. We’ll hear about Katrina’s experience being coached by her dad on Team New Balance Boston, which has had an incredible year with many talented athletes. They recently sent Elle Purrier-St. Pierre and Emily Mackay to the Olympics in Paris—an exciting achievement!

The team has a fantastic dynamic, and it’s clear that Mark provides outstanding leadership. If you’re interested in learning more about his approach, he published a book last year titled Personal Best Running.

Additionally, it’s worth noting that Katrina is the daughter of two Olympians, and we explore what that means for her journey. I hope you’re enjoying this series as much as I am!

What we talked about:

5:05- Nurturing your kids’ love for sports

18:00- Being coached by your dad/coaching your daughter

25:00- Katrina’s battle with injuries at the Olympic Trials

29:35- How to manage emotions in sport when you’re going all in

36:35- Instilling a hard work ethic in your kids

40:40- Proudest moments

46:40- What to look for in a coach

1:08:00- End of podcast message

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In 2020, Dakotah finished 36th at the Olympic trials with a time of 2:39:08. Since then, she’s completely wowed us with her confidence, gritty training, and contagious positivity. If you’ve ever seen Dakotah race, you know she’s known for that big smile she flashes during her races, and it’s clearly a huge part of her success! Fast forward to the 2024 Olympic trials, where she placed third and then went on to the Paris Olympics, finishing 12th as the top American with an impressive time of 2:26:44 on a super tough course.

And as if that wasn’t enough, Dakotah recently announced she’ll be running the New York City Marathon, which will be so exciting to watch after her Olympic run. She’s sponsored by Puma and she got engaged at the finish line in Paris during the Olympics! I also couldn’t resist asking her a bit about her Minnesota roots, which she’s always so proud of.

I absolutely love Dakotah, and I know you all do too. I can’t wait for you to hear this conversation with the one and only Dakotah Lindwurm!

What we talked about:

3:30- Catching up with Dakotah post Olympic Trials and Olympics

16:10- Smiling during races

20:00- Recapping her race and feelings post race

28:00- The decision to run NYC Marathon

34:00- The physicality in the Olympic marathon

35:00- What she learned racing at the Olympics

38:00- The Olympic experience outside of the race

41:40- Believing in herself

Show notes:

Dakotah on Instagram

Dakotah on Episode 512

Dakotah on Episode 494

Dakotah on Episode 398

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In today’s episode, I’m joined by Monica Swanson and her son Luke Swanson. I had the pleasure of interviewing Monica on my parenting podcast last year. She’s a homeschooling mom of four boys living in Hawaii, and she’s raising some serious athletes! Three of her sons are already out of the house, but today we get to talk to her son, Luke, who is a professional surfer. Yes, a professional surfer! It was fascinating to hear both Monica’s perspective as a supportive mom and Luke’s insights into what it takes to train at such a high level from a young age.

We also delved into what life is like now for them as they navigate Luke’s professional surfing career. I even asked Luke some Olympic-related questions, since I caught some of the surfing events in the Olympics and was curious about the ins and outs of the sport. Monica and Luke had some really interesting insights that I think you’ll enjoy.

I love learning about sports outside of the running world, and I hope you find this episode as engaging as I did. Monica is one of my favorite people I’ve connected with through social media, and I always find her story inspiring, so it was so fun to catch up with her on this episode!

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What we talked about:

4:45- How they landed in Hawaii

10:00- Thoughts on surfing in the Olympics

12:15- Luke’s development as a surfer and how Monica helped to foster that love

31:15- Trusting a coach as both the athlete and the parent

37:45- Navigating the surfing culture

53:30- The most rewarding part about being the parent of an athlete

55:00- The rewarding parts of being a professional athlete

Show notes:

Luke on Instagram

Monica on Instagram

Book recommendations:

The Confident Mind

Becoming Homeschoolers

Raising Amazing

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In our conversation, we dive into Emily’s incredible progression and what it took to get here. She also opens up about her Olympic experience, how she felt not making the final, and her reflections post-Olympics. Emily runs for Team New Balance Boston, coached by Mark Coogan, and if you haven’t been following them, you’re missing out—they’re one of the most exciting teams right now. And yes, we do talk about that hilarious Instagram video with Laura Green that made us love the team even more!

This episode isn’t all about running, Emily shares what she’s reading, listening to, and her favorite spots in Boston. It’s a fun, well-rounded conversation that I think you’ll really enjoy.

What we talked about:

6:00- Training with Team NB Boston

10:00- Believing in herself to make big jumps in improvement

23:00- Breaking down her race at the Olympics Trials

33:00- The confidence she’s gained from recent PRs

35:00- Her Olympic experience

52:10- End of podcast questions

Show notes:

Emily on Instagram

Book recommendations:

A Court of Thorns and Roses

The Covenant of Water

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You probably know Sara as the 1500-meter runner turned marathoner, with an impressive 2:23 marathon personal best. She’s also a Puma athlete, a mom of four, a realtor, and the founder of the Vaughn Child Care Fund. On top of that, she’s achieved two top-10 finishes at the Chicago Marathon.

Kiki, her eldest daughter, has recently started college at Northern Arizona University (NAU), where she’ll be running track and cross country. In this episode, we dive into their experiences – Kiki growing up with a dedicated and accomplished athlete as her mom, and Sara balancing her athletic career while raising a family.

This conversation was a lot of fun, and I’m so grateful for the opportunity to share their story. Best of luck to Kiki this fall at NAU, and to Sara as she prepares for the Chicago Marathon! If you enjoy the episode, please take a moment to leave a rating and review. Let Sara and Kiki know what you think, and I hope you enjoy listening!

What we talked about:

3:00- How Sara allowed Kiki to find her own passion for running

6:20- How Kiki tries to keep the pressure off of her running

10:10- Deciding on which college to run at

18:30- Walking through a dissapointment and showing her kids how to experience failure

21:45- The balance of school, work, and athletics

30:45- How hard work was instilled in her

32:45- Their relationship as mom and daughter

35:40- Finding your identity outside of running

37:00- Picking the best college for you

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Rory has been working with Ryan Hall as his coach leading up to the Olympic Games. Before that, he was with NAZ Elite under Ben Rosario, and he also was coached by Ed Eyestone in college when he ran for BYU. In this episode, we hear about those three different coaching styles and what those coaches meant to him. He is transitioning from being coached by Ryan Hall to looking for a new coach and he shares about what he is looking for in a coach in this episode.

Since Rory was last on the podcast, he’s had two kids added to his family. He talks about that transition and what that’s been like training at a high level and being a dad.

He recently announced he’ll be running the New York City Marathon, which is really exciting. So we talk about that and the decision that he made to do that. So excited to cheer him on at that race and see what he does!

What we talked about:

2:00- Catching up with Rory

6:45- His experience at the Olympics

16:30- His decision to run the NYC marathon

21:00- Qualifying for the Olympics

34:55- Training with 2 kids

38:15- His partnership with Puma

44:00- His relationship with Conner Mantz and Clayton Young

47:00- His faith

53:15- Running for Team Canada

58:25- End of podcast questions

Show Notes:

The Way of the Runner

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This is Sabrina’s second time on the podcast! If you want to hear a little bit more about her backstory, she was episode 346 of this podcast in November of 2021, where we talked about philosophy, running and motherhood. Today we catch up on what’s going on in her life. She’s now the mom of two. When we first talked, I think she was fresh off her first baby. Since then she’s written the book The Examined Runner, Why Good People Make Better Runners, is a deep dive into the conversation of how striving to be a better person make you a better runner. It’s a really great book and I loved reading it. She looks at key ideas and virtue ethics. It is one of those books where you underline, you take notes, you read it little by little and really try to understand it. And in this conversation, I loved getting inside Sabrina’s brain a little bit more. 

What we talked about:

2:50- Catching up with Sabrina

6:30- Where running is fitting into her life right now

10:50- The process of writing The Examined Runner

15:00- Working on our “character flaws”

21:50- Happy feelings aren’t always the goal

24:50- Finding purpose

32:25- Envy

33:40- Coaching and combining her philosophy knowledge with coaching

38:05- Prioritizing where you spend your time 

53:10- Last message to pull away from her book

Show notes:

Sabrina on Instagram

Book Suggestions:

The Anxious Generation

Demon Copperhead

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Abby runs with Hoka NAZ Elite and she is a 1500 meter and 5000 meter runner. She has a personal best in the 1500m of 4:07. Her mile PR, which was run at the Sir Walter Mile is 4:26 and she has a 15:03 PR in the 5000m and 32:27 PR in the 10,000m.

Abby grew up in Ohio, ran for Ohio State, and then went on to run for the University of Colorado. Unexpectedly, we took a turn and talked about her time at University of Colorado, and she weighed in on her thoughts on Mark Wetmore and Heather Burroughs and how they won’t be coming back to coach the team this coming year.

Abby competed at the Olympic trials in the 5,000m and had a bit of a disappointment there. She talks about that and what that’s been like to bounce back from that and continue to race well this summer.

I loved chatting with Abby and am so excited to see what she does during the rest of her career!

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